Tree suggestions for parking strip x Mediterranean garden
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Plant suggestions for an edible parking strip garden
Comments (3)I think it's doable - I've seen similar potager-type plantings in neighborhoods here. I'd be inclined to do raised beds. This would put your produce above dogwalking/pedestrian levels and limit the impact those activities might have. Raised beds would also provide for some decent soil conditions as you would need to import decent soil - soil in parking or 'hell strips' is notoriously bad, generally being fill and heavily compacted. Raised beds would also allow for access through and around without stomping through the plantings for visitors that may need to park on the street. Because this area is so visible and the first thing you and visitors will view, I'd give careful thought to selection and arrangement. Edible gardens often are less attractive than functional and one in this prominent a location needs to be both. I might consider this to be a good spot for perennial edibles - those that have more than a seasonal presence. Blueberries come immediately to mind, as these are very ornamental landscape plants as well providing delicious berries, but there are other possibilities.......herbs, other berries, rhubarb, artichokes, asparagus, etc. I'd also check with the city. In some municipalities, there are restrictions on what can be planted in these strips, as far as heights, limiting visibility, etc. And don't forget about the need to water this area regularly and how easily that can be accomplished....See MoreParking strip under Honey Locust Tree landscape suggestions
Comments (2)Why not try a few ornamental grasses and see how it goes? If that is a fairly large tree, pruning the roots may interfere with its stability in wind. Perhaps you might want to talk to an arborist first. Sue...See MoreMediterranean or Mission style gardens?
Comments (7)I typed this response below before I realized that you don't live in California, but Oregon! You can still have a mediterranean inspired garden further north, but will have to adjust your planting choices to reflect that you are still mediterranean influenced in climate, but too cold and often too wet to slavishly emulate a California mediterranean style. It can certainly be done, even so, as there are classic mediterranean style gardens even in Vancouver, BC, or along the East Coast, where maintaining drought tolerant mediterranean plants in east coast summer heat, humidity and rainfall takes extra work. Adapting a plant palette that emphasizes gray foliage, and avoids the lush and green will go a long ways towards establishing the look. If you are set within tall conifer woods or surrounded by lots of big deciduous shade trees, it may be a stretch to pull this off visually. Most classic mediterranean gardens are washed in bright sun, and would typically rely on overhead screens or everegreen trees to create some relief in summer. If you have a situation where you can create a walled courtyard, it might be far easier to create a landscape within to suit your theme, and relate the outside to the surrounding neighborhood if the mediterranean theme/illusion can't be sustained. If you ahve your heart set on a palm as part of the theme, a Mediterranean Fan Palm/Chamaerops humilis or Windmill Palm/Trachycarpus fortunei are two that would take your climate. The following is what I had started to reply before I realized you are so much further north... The remnant gardens of all of the California missions are but fantasy recreations, with little basis in fact. You probably wouldn't want to emulate the real thing, it would be too sparse, utilitarian and devoid of plants. Mission gardens were for work and agriculture, not aesthetics. Michelle has pointed you in a good direction as to books and info. You will probably find that it makes much more sense to design a mediterranean inspired garden full of plantings that reflect your climate. If you stay true to this, you won't include a lawn, or insist on the garden being at its peak in mid summer, when a mediterranean garden would be resting for lack of water, and waiting to revive with the fall rains. (This is probably true even for your location in Oregon, where most gardens still need some supplemental irrigation in summer and early fall, even with your reputation for so much more rain that here in California). Winter and spring growth and bloom, lots of plants that are naturally designed to conserve water in summer and survive would be the majority of the garden. I personally would not recommend a Mexican Fan Palm for the entry; too large and messy, there are many other more suitable palms. I'd consider using rosemary, lavenders, santolinas, phlomis, as backbone perennials in the garden. If you want to take a cue from moorish/spanish themed gardens in particular, then inlucing a few classic courtyard more water loving plants to be used as accents might include an orange or lemon tree and a small fountain within a walled courtyard. Using tile, saltillo pavers or decomposed granite fines as paving/non planted surfaces would also give a classic mediterranean feel. For me, there are several public gardens that exude this feeling. Visit the buildings and surrounding gardens of San Diego's Balboa Park, or State Street in Santa Barbara and especially the County Court House Complex. If you wanted to design a mediterranean inspired garden using California natives, the Santa Barbara Botanic Garden above the mission further up the canyon is another great place to visit and get ideas. Also in nearby Montecito, the Casa del Herrero Garden is open to the public by appointment, and has great spanish detailing to the house and gardens. I would recommend seeing as much as you can, and formulating your own style based on what you like, rather than trying to emulate a formula for your new gardenI'm willing to bet there are plenty of good examples of "mediterranean style" gardens in your own community, especially if you live somewhere like Pasadena or San Diego. Well, as you can see, alot of the references will not apply as you don't live anywhere near Southern California, but taking in the sights and paying a visit might still be good for generating ideas to recreate the "sense" of a classic mediterranean garden. Planting things that can survive and still look good on your seasonal rainfall also makes good sense even if the style isn't medit in feeling. You won't have to work as hard to keep it alive in the next drought, nor spend as much time pruning things back that are encouraged to overgrow by too much regular watering out of the natural rainfall season....See Moremediterranean/Italian style garden
Comments (5)I don't garden in your climate zone, so can't offer specific advice on what mediterranean plants will be hardy enough for your area. Firstly, Italian gardens are mediterranean climate gardens, so they are simply one form of medit garden. Medit gardens often do use hardier subtropicals for effect, but these will typically need supplemental summer irrigation to get them through the long summer dry season; up to 8 months long here in California, usually at least 6 to 7 months long in most of the Mediterranean proper. Mediterranean gardens will all typically emphasize plants adapted to this winter growing climate with a long summer dormancy period. This tends to favor evergreen trees and shrubs with foliage that is adapted to conserve moisture. As a result, we have lots of plants with waxy small leaves or grey hairy leaves, both protections against moisture loss. Succulents are actually not well represented as native plants in most true mediterranean climates, although there are many South African plants such as Aloes, Ice plants, and Agaves and Sedums from temperate parts of Mexico that are now well represented in Mediterranean climate gardens around the world. As to a style of Mediterranean garden for your climate, the Italian approach with lots of clipped hedges, a water feature, use of gravel as groundcover, and primarily evergreen trees and shrubs might be easily replicated in your local climate. Perennials such as Lavender, Rosemary and bulbs might be possible in your climate, but many will not take zone 5 conditions. The Italians are famous for growing many more tender classic plants such as Bougainvillea, Citrus, Oleanders, Gardenias, etc in beautiful terra cotta pots, which can be taken into enclosed greenhouses/conservatories for the winter. This may be an option for you as well if you have the room indoors. It would probably be more practical to try locally hardy plants that replicate the look, and will tolerate your mostly full shade conditions. As the typical mediterranean garden is usually associated with full hot sun, shaded areas in the gardens are usually reserved as retreats from the sun, and given over to patios under a grape arbor with a collection of shade tolerant container plants such as clivias, Boston ferns, Cymbidium orchids and the like. There are plenty of good photo books on Mediterranean gardening and gardens, try looking for some in your local library to get style ideas. Some of the classic plants in almost any true Mediterranean area garden would include Olives, Figs, Almonds, Myrtle, Lavenders, Phlomis, Rosemaries, Oleanders and Cistus, along with Boxwood hedges. In the mildest parts, this would also include Bougainvillea, palms, Aloes, Jasmines, Passion vines, Bird of Paradise/Strelitzia, Proteas and succulents such as Agaves, Beschornerias, Echeverias, etc....See Moreken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
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