FWIW, Jax, I think the mystery is already solved. It's my bet that the rose is the vigorous climbing Tea, 'E. Veyrat Hermanos'. After commenting here earlier, I visited HMF to re-check the info available on 'Kaiserin Friedrich'. There, I found this 2004 entry by Marion Brandes in the "Member Comments" section: " . . . Color Plate contained in Old Rose Advisor I propagated this rose from the very old climber adjacent to the Fanek's Nursery in San Antonio in the mid-90's and made it available to Texas Rose Rustler's, after identifying it with the Old Rose Advisor." I interpret that as meaning that Brandes's identification of the Fanek Nursey rose as 'Kaiserin Friedrich' was based SOLELY on a viewing of a very small reproduction of an antique color plate (Plate 196 in Dickerson's "The Old Rose Advisor). That, indeed, is a very flimsy bit of evidence upon which to base a firm pronouncement of identification. The petal-packed blooms of 'E Veyrat Hermanos' vary radically in color -- sometimes almost solid ivory/apricot, sometimes blended with pink, & sometimes (usually in cool weather) showing a vivid, almost neon pink center surrounded by a narrow ruff of ivory petals. It's the latter coloration that must have led to the "Pink Marechal Niel" misnomer. While the color blend of 'Kaiserin Friedrich' is similar to that of EVH, hers is much more delicate and subtle -- and never neon pink. On the HMF photo pages for KF, there are 7 photos (plus 3 artist renderings). Of those 7, I think only 1 is actually a photo of KF (the photo from a German source). All of the remaining 6 are photos of the Fanek Nursery foundling -- 2 submitted by Marion Brandes, and 4 of a plant provided to M. Orwat by Greg Grant of the Texas Rose Rustlers. IMO those 6 are photos of EVH. My advice to Sabalmatt, Alameda & anyone else who purchased Pink MN at the SFA plant sale: Provide it with a large, very sturdy support and give it lots of space. I think it was the Aussie authors of the recent Tea Rose book who called EVH a "rose thug" that will take over whatever garden space the gardener will allow. Another indication of EVH's lust for life is the fact that cuttings of it are very easy to root. But, trust me -- you'll want only one in your garden.

Voice of experience - i was sure that Henry Kelsey was dead last spring but when i dug him out, there were shoots coming from one of the roots. Looks like that baby has made it through - there are green rose leaves in the pot that's buried in the ground. I found some green on the canes of Morden Sunrise and Delicata, but most of my roses are still pretty much buried, if not in snow then in their boxes full of leaves.

It is gorgeous---need more pictures Florence

Here are some more photos: The base of the rose...own root? It looks like it's been here awhile. The overall plant. The flowers appear to change from peach to pink as they mature. The leaves. It's right around the corner from a David Austin that I planted this spring, which has barely any damage. Planted about two feet away from the mystery rose is what I think is an Oso Easy Double Red, which I'd also like to save. It's also in fairly poor condition, but trying valiantly to bloom. If it weren't for the stunted condition of both roses, the shrub rose probably would have swallowed my mystery rose by now.