Where does it say it has no cooling fan and why is that a big deal. I have 36” all gas bertazzoni I never even pay attention to the cooling fan it is not that noisy is that your issue.

My GE Cafe series has a loud cooling fan that continues running for 10-15 minutes after i turn off the oven. It drives me crazy! I‘be been told the Fisher and Paykel does not have a fan but I can’t confirm.

Both Fisher Paykel & Bertazzoni have cooling fans.

Bluestar

I know I just don’t find it an issue.

I have a very small NYC kitchen. The stove takes up 1/4 of the space. My kitchen table is 2 feet from the stove. Many people have complained about the cooling fans from all models of stoves. I just want to get a list of stoves without cooling fans.

Go visit some stores with active cooking stations set up, like Eurostoves. It's a non issue for 90% of users. You're blowing out of proportion all the minor troubles about everything with only biased anecdotes. Yet you discredit the positive anecdotes. Junk science, and buying trouble pessimistic perspective. Go test it yourself! There is no perfect.

Not a range but we had wolf wall ovens in our rental house and the cooling fan drove all of us crazy. It was loud and was on for 20 minutes. We had a Wolf range(all gas, no electronics) in previous house and it did not have an automatic cooling fan but it did have a manual switch. We never used it. The house we are in now has a Bluestar range(all gas, no electronics) and there is no cooling fan.

live wire oak - I have not been able to find any store in the NY area with active cooking stations. Would you buy a car without test driving it first? I don’t think so. You don’t know me or my situation so please don’t pass judgement.

My partial list starts with Blue Star. They do not seem to have electronics that require cooling and I cannot ever recall seeing any cooling fans in parts diagrams that I have seen.

If you are considering Premier Pro ranges, then you also might consider all gas 36" prostyle ranges branded as NXR, Thor Kitchen and Kucht which are of similar quality.

Last time I checked (when looking up parts for a friend), Five Star's all gas ranges did not have cooling fans for electronics (only a manually switched convection fan.)

You also could check out American Range whose residential gas ranges don't seem to have electronics that require cooling fans.

I'm still not quite ready to write a full review of my Bluestar RCS 36" gas range but I will do my best to put my cursory thoughts together for the moment. At this time I would give this range 4 out of 5 stars.

I am completely happy that I passed on the Bertazzoni. Beware of the loud cooling fans on the Bertazzoni and Fisher Paykel. There are computer chips inside of them that heat up and fail. It's the biggest reason why I passed on these two ranges though there were also design decisions that did not make sense. (Who uses a hob rail?)

There are no computer chips inside of the Bluestar. It is analog simplicity at it's finest. I have not put the Bluestar through all of it's paces because of the hot summer and I don't have air conditioning in my pre-war apartment. Once fall approaches I will be using the Bluestar quite a bit more and will have a more thorough opinion.

After the first few weeks with the Bluestar I had quite a scare. I was using a new top recommended oven thermometer from America's Test Kitchen. The oven temp on the thermometer was more than 50º off from what was on the dial. I called Bluestar and they sent a technician to my apartment within a few days. Luke, the tech, was very kind and knowledgeable and he tested the oven temp with a much more accurate and complex digital thermometer. It turned out that the oven temperature was completely accurate and my $20 oven thermometer was inaccurate. He explained to me that this happens frequently with new Bluestar owners. Trust the oven. I was holding on to the oven thermometer like a band-aide and just because it was analog it did not mean that it was accurate. Now that I know that I had a perfectly functioning stove I could move on to cooking without any worries.

Let me tell you, one of the major reasons why I chose to purchase the Bluestar was because of the 1850º infrared ceramic broiler. What I didn't expect was how life changing it would be. I mean, wow, it's a stunning piece of tech. The flame is so hot, it's blue. Because it's an instant heat I do not have to wait for it to warm up before use. Even in the hot summer I could grill a steak in just a few minutes with incredible char without heating up my kitchen. My Thermapen MK4 ensures my meat is cooked perfectly. My favorite recipe so far is chicken tandoori.

One of the reasons why I initially wanted the Bertazzoni and Fisher Paykel was because of their true 24 inch cabinet deep profiles. Both stoves are slim and elegant. Their grates are light, thin, and easy to remove for cleaning. The Bluestar, on the other hand, is a more industrial, restaurant style stove. I was apprehensive about putting it in my small NYC kitchen. It took me awhile to adjust to the larger footprint of the Bluestar but I am now quite happy with it's size but I'm still adjusting to it's more blunt kind of styling.

Now on to why, so far, I am knocking one star off of this stove. My opinion is entirely subjective, so please take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Look at the photo below. You see how deep that front bull-nose is? I just can't quite get used to it. Granted, I have been using a rental grade stove beforehand for 20 years so I am still adjusting. My roommate, however, adjusted almost immediately to the added depth. Because of the deep, flat stainless steel area it is begging to get scratched. Yes, just three months in I do have a small micro-scratch. I brought up my concerns to Luke who came to check on my oven temperature problem. He agreed with me that scratches are going to happen and I just have to let go of this concern. Wait for several years and in the future there are ways to polish out the scratches and he would be happy to help me with how to do so when the time comes.

But still, why does the bullnose have to be so deep? Luke explained to me that the wiring for the stove was all tucked densely behind the bullnose, which I gathered. But what I didn't see was that on the underside overhang of the bullnose there are air vents that help dissipate heat when cooking. These vents omit the need for the cooling fans that are in the Bertazzoni and Fisher Paykel. Hmm, again, brilliant simplicity. My question now is why can't Bluestar design a shallower bullnose while still keeping the space for the wires and the vents? Checking other stoves, like Wolf and Viking, they too have thick bullnoses but none of them are as deep as Bluestar's. I guess it's just the new world order of stove design to have these thick bullnoses. Checking the stoves out at the steakhouse I work at they too have thick bullnoses. I just need to give myself more time to adjust.

Now on to those thick grates. I did not want them. Another reason why I initially chose the Bertazzoni and Fisher Paykel. But what I like about the Bluestar is that there is one grate for each of the 6 burners. Each grate, though heavy duty, is lighter than expected and easy to remove for cleaning. Other stoves have one continuous grate over two burners which makes them quite a bit heavier to remove. As you can see in the photo below I had a powder-coated stainless steel cover made for the middle two grates so I would I have more room for cooking equipment. It is easily removable for those times when I need to use all 6 burners.

And what about those burners? I was amazed with how quickly I could boil a huge pot of water for pasta. I love the fact that all of the burners have high output btu's except for the far left back burner for low simmering. If you have read my other threads some of you may know how anal retentive I am about burners with incredible low simmering capabilities. I still have not tested the low simmering capabilities enough to come to any conclusive opinions but so far I am happy. I am considering getting a diffuser for this stove because the burners are so wide in diameter that the flames burn the sides of narrower objects like my moka pot. I will follow up later on the burner capabilities when the weather cools and I have more time to use them extensively. Let me tell you this though. I am so glad I chose the sealed burner range over the open burner range. Yes, I know that the open burners on Bluestar ranges are legendary. The open burners are superior in performance to the sealed burners but I can't believe how easy to clean the sealed burners are. I barely have to take a wet soapy sponge to the surface to clean up spills. I am not a professional chef. I am an avid home cook and I don't need anything more than what I have. The Bluestar sealed burners are exceeding my expectations.

A couple of more notes. I have not used the convection oven too much. Again, I need to wait for temperatures to cool. Also, this stove does not have a warming drawer. I thought this would be a problem at first since my small kitchen has very little storage. My solution is that I slide my large sheet pans under my stove. I am surprised with the amount of clearance under my stove for storage. A plus is that I can now mop under my stove. Say goodbye to under-stove dust and debris. With a storage or warming drawer on other stoves cleaning under them would not be possible.

Let's just say that I am happy with my Bluestar purchase. I am glad I did not get the Bertazzoni or the Fisher Paykel. An added bonus is that the Bluestar is designed and built in America and, so far, Bluestar support has been excellent. This is a set-it and forget-it kind of stove. Simplicity is what I was after and simplicity is what I got. Thank you, Bluestar.

Try contacting Albano appliance in Pound Ridge. They do cooking demonstrations there so they definitely have stuff hooked up. I do not know what brands however...

Good luck!

The deep bullnose comes from Bluestar's commercial (Garland) roots. Commercial restaurant ranges traditionally have this feature which can be used to temporarily support a plate while filling it from a skillet or pot on the range top.

Scratches on it are inevitable but they can be removed, on occasion, with proper technique.

Patricia, I’m confused about why made a point about commenting on a thread just to say you aren’t reading it. Scroll on by! Feel free not to weigh in on everything!

Thank you, Sara. Yes, sometimes my posts take a full day to write. I often have to go back and edit my comments because of a new thought. For me and for most people purchasing a major appliance it is heart wrenching and confusing. If I could help one person then I count it a success just as I have learned from many people here on houzz.

David’s post was long, but honest and very informative which is the trade-off. I too own and BlueStar w/open burners and it’s changed how I cook. Like David, I kept buying multiple oven thermometers to very the oven temp and all of them were at least 50* or more under what the dial was turned to. It just takes longer for a BlueStar oven to normalize in temperature. I also love my Thermapen MK4!

Just an update: As of two days ago, I discovered a problem with my Bluestar RCS sealed burner range. It's one of the reasons why I did not give a full review of the range yet. I needed to put it through its paces and this takes time. I am confident in saying that my findings would not have been fleshed out by Consumer Reports and that my posts will help others make a purchasing decision. I feel like I need to give Bluestar time to respond to the issue before I post a full review. Let's wait and see...

Hi

i am in desperate search for a gas range with out a cooling fan!! I live in NYC also, and agree about the need to “test drive” appliances... is your Blue Star oven quiet while baking? Thank you, i love all the research you have done!

natalie

Hi HU-207928320. Since we both live in NYC and I would be happy to let you test drive my BlueStar RCS range if you'd like. It's just awful that no dealer or manufacturer will let you see a range in working order.

So ... I'm dying to know... is the oven quiet?? I would love to come over and test drive your blue star

It's totally quiet. No cooling fan. I haven't done a full review of it yet because there are alot of things about it that I'm not happy with but I have to be sure it's a real problem. But guess what? Every single darned oven out there has issues. Message me if you like to come over.

Thank you!! I'll be getting a blue star then!! I've been researching for weeks .

Natalie - I would also recommend the Bluestar *open-burner* range. Davidhunternyc bought the closed-burner version. Many people feel that the best part of Bluestar is that they are one of the few to offer a true open-burner range, and with a cast iron top, a big advantage. If you do a search on this forum, you will see many posts about the advantages of the Bluestar open-burner range.

Bluestar also has a page on their website called “Request a Demo”. Idk how it works, but you should check it out: https://www.bluestarcooking.com/support/request-a-demo/

This page on the Bluestar website lets you input your zip code to see if there will be any live demos in your area: https://www.bluestarcooking.com/news/events/?filter_location=10707&filter_distance=0

HU-207928320 Wait! : ) I didn't say get a Bluestar. There are issues, like I said. For instance, read the following thread in its entirety and you'll see what a mean. The RCS range has problems:

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5656161/simmering-and-btu-s-on-gas-burners

Also, there are no demos in the NYC area.

Hi

i really wish there was a place to demo these appliances... a great business idea in the making!

anyway... the most important feature for me is that it has a quiet/silent fan while baking... i need to do more research on the open vs. sealed burners... i would love to actually see/hear a Blue Star in action. My friend has a WOLF and says its very quiet, and my neighbor has a Viking and she says it has a quiet fan..... i need a 30” slide in. So im not sure if that makes a difference or not. I currently have a JADE which is about the worst thing ever made.

if anybody has one of these ovens i would love to come visit it. My # 917-501-2637

HU-207928320:

The Bluestar RCS and RNB gas range ovens do not have a cooling fan. The only fan that they have is a convection fan that you can manually turn on with a switch on the front panel. So, if you do not turn on the convection fan, the only sounds while baking are the occasional click of a relay that turns the burner on and off to regulate oven temperature and the quiet whooshing sound of the gas burner itself. It is essentially silent during baking unless you choose to have the convection fan running.

Edited for accuracy:

As M correctly points out, the Bluestar Platinum series of gas range ovens have a "European style" convection fan that is automatically controlled and can not be turned off separately from the burner in the rear wall of the oven. The RCS and RNB series all have manually controlled convection fans.

Thanks John

are you referencing the all gas blue star or a dual fuel?

No Bluestar ranges have cooling fans. They are entirely analog so there isn’t a logic board necessary to cool.

I don't think Bluestar makes any dual fuel ranges. They do make all gas ranges/rangetops/cooktops, induction rangetops, and electric wall ovens.

Their regular gas ovens have a fan that you manually have to turn on, if you want it. But they don't have an automatic cooling fan. Their Platinum-style gas ovens have a fan that needs to run while the oven is operating. So, avoid that, if that is a problem for you. I don't know whether the electric wall oven has a cooling fan.

Some appliance stores have hooked up appliances, but it would be virtually impossible for them to have demonstrations for every model / brand of product out there. I would make sure to discuss in detail with your appliance specialist what you are looking for and what you expect and then find out what the return policy is if it doesn't turn out that way. I would also suggest having a back up model in mind.