Need help with an island in my kitchen nook area please.

5 years ago

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We moved in last year and these pics are from then. But we want an island somewhere/anywhere. I don’t know if this can be done but i want to keep the upper structure the same and cut back some areas. I know the upper section are the beams which will cost too much to move around. What would be the cheapest way to install an island in this layout?

i was thinking the green outline we can open up. im curious if the drawn blue lines are the supports? The red is the possible island.

We had a contractor come over a few months ago but he wanted to rip out all of the cabinets, counter tops, get rid of the sliding door, install an island and more for $60-70k. we don’t have enough equity or money for that.

Any thoughts of installing an Island without moving any structural beams? Any help would be great. Thanks.

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JAN MOYER

5 years ago

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Key words: " We moved in last year and don't have enough money or equity"

Translation: You wait. Yep, you wait, you save, for a fuller remodel, and unifying of floors, a knockdown of walls etc. And until you have at least 75 k. - 100k and a pro KD

Until then, you don't throw money at it.

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User
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
You need a table there, not an island. You aren't getting an island without that major redo.
CLC
5 years ago
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My initial thought is that would be an odd spot for an island.....what is the point/function of having one there? will you have seating at the island? What are the dimensions of the kitchen and of the breakfast nook (the area you want to put the island in?)

I’m curious what the dining room side looks like? Would it make sense to expand the kitchen that direction?
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Joe C
Original Author
5 years ago

This is the dining room side. It’s on the other side of the kitchen. It might make sense to go this way. I never thought about that. the nook and dining are small rooms. It’s unfortunate our stairs to the second floor is located in the middle of the first floor.
deb s
5 years ago
Depending on your lifestyle and given this area leads to the patio, i think there are some options WITHOUT a renovation (Jan Moyer is spot on with her advice).

make this room into a cool bar area by placing a wall of cabinets on the left wall with a mini fridge, wine fridge etc. and maybe small round table in the center-- It would be nice to have two bar stools at the counter but there is no knee space so you would have to play with it

It seems like the concept of the island is really driven by the desire to have a larger more open kitchen which would be a major cost with potentially little return.

You could see if you can do a mini reno and take down the wall where the corner cabinets are- you would lose the two cabinets but would gain allot of openess for less $$$.
User
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
Stop smoking the HGTV crack. They provide a fantasy world where everyone has an island and a $1000 kitchen renovation that in real life is 100x that figure. Get to TV decorating rehab ASAP. You’ll go broke trying to keep up with the Kardashians otherwise.

Learn to to love what you have. https://www.curbed.com/2018/9/5/17820648/what-to-renovate-home-mcmansion-hell-wagner
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
5 years ago
There is no place for an island that makes sense so forget that plan unless you are going to redo the space and I do agree living in it for a while before doing anything is always a good idea.IMO th kitchen needs a serious overhaul if an island is a must so start saving and in the meantime see what works and what doesn’t in this layout..
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Anglophilia
5 years ago
I agree with the above two posts. Sometimes, we simply must wait. I made a very minor improvements in my kitchen (replaced countertops that were Formica with sparkles and in bad condition) and painted my cabinets/replaced hardware. Nineteen years later, we re-did the ceiling lighting (put in pot lights) and got undercounter lighting. We also replaced the kitchen sink/faucet and put in hardwood floors.

It was not until 13 years later, that I finally re-did my entire kitchen. Well, not really the "entire" kitchen. I re-used my countertops/sink/faucet/lighting/floors/appliances. Basically, I got new cabinets and moved the refrigerator to a better location. So, I waited 32 years before I could afford to do this. I don't feel deprived.
Joe C
Original Author
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
Thanks for the advice. I was “hoping“ there was a chance to add an island but after thinking some of your replies, it looks like it’ll take more money than I wanted to spend. Here are some newer photos of our space. I repainted my cabinets and had someone install new countertops. youre right..... hgtv Makes everything look so easy.

We‘ll think about this a bit more and enjoy what we have.
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JAN MOYER
5 years ago
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Good PLAN! Nobody will starve in the meantime, that's a safe bet! One tip. and it is harder with kids.........every SINGLE bit of clutter you can eliminate, will make it feel more spacious : ) and calmer.