Entirely too much wood
JJ Rush
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Wood Replacement: Too Much Glass Lost
Comments (16)WindowDog, It is not my intent to get into an argument with you. That being said, millions of viewers read this forum so I think it is worthwhile to make sure that we deal in facts so that future readers can make decisions based on that rather than opinion. For the sake of future discussions into the comparison of fiberglass vs. vinyl, lets assume that we are comparing the premium versions of vinyl. Comparing some cheap, builders grade junk vinyl to fiberglass is not a level comparison from the outset. The fact that you have installed thousands of vinyl windows in which the customers have commented about glass loss is great, however, if done as a comparable insert installation, the Infinity provides very little advantage when compared to narrow line vinyl. If you were installing a vinyl insert with a edge of frame to glass dimension of nearly 4", then yes...customers are going to note a difference. Using that as the benchmark and therefore basis of the statement that you loose much more glass with vinyl is accurate in that application but false as a whole. As I noted above, the Infinity only provides you with 1/4" more glass per side as compared to narrow line vinyl and a whopping 1% more visible light. Sunrise is one of the more well regarded windows out there and nearly all of its product lines will have very similar reveal and dimensions to the Infinity. Couple this with the fact that it is much more airtight and achieves much better thermal numbers and I think that a customer would likely choose the more performance yielding windows at the expense of 1/4" and 1% light. Much more is certainly an apt description for the Infinity's air leakage number. Most of the premium vinyl windows out there on the market have air leakage numbers that are 0.05 and below. An air leakage number of 0.19 does not even approach the performance of the better units out there. The Infinity, by comparison, has and air leakage rate of 0.27 based on the AAMA test report that I have in my hand of their insert window. It also has a DP30 rating. Interesting performance out of a window that is supposedly 8X as strong as vinyl (an often quoted data point on their site although it is referring to tensile strength and that is a completely unrepresentative force that is ever placed on a window installed in an operational capacity). It the material for the Infinity is so superior to vinyl, why the low DP rating and the high air leakage. The best explanation that I can come up with for the lower DP is that it begins to leak water at what is and equivalent rating of DP30 and is therefore assigned that rating. Looking at the Sunrise again, it has an air leakage rate of 0.04. The Infinity's leakage rate of 0.27 is absolutely "much more" than 0.04 (a nearly 7 fold increase). You mention that the degradation of vinyl window performance in the sun. This has been a well debated subject but without any real data. Heat of deformation on vinyl is over 160 degrees (far from normal conditions or even possible in about 99% of the country) and I don't see windows reaching those temps. Until someone can provide me with a data report to indicate the degradation of vinyl performance as a result of normal exposure, I don't see it and it purely conjecture at that point. All windows will loose a measure of performance tightness over time because the weatherstripping seals will loose some of their pressure but that is window universal. Again, I appreciate your personal experience and the conditions that you are exposed to, however, data and facts are just that and are laboratory generated. By comparison to the higher end vinyls out there, the Infinity leaks more air. It is enough to create and issue for the customer, probably not but, it does have a higher than average rate and I doubt you will ever see it being installed in a net zero energy home. I would agree with you wholeheartedly that the RBA is a less than average window....See Moretoo much wood
Comments (10)Hi Faye, I have dark stained alder wood cabs also. I used them on the perimeter cabs only, with ivory/glazed cabs on the interior. I've had many compliments on the combination. I didn't want the kitchen to be too dark OR too light. I have dark hand scraped floors, and all my furniture is medium to dark wood. As for the interior doors/trim, it's 3 shades darker than the warm tan walls, and I love it! I didn't want white trim/doors since I tend to think of it as 'colonial', but that's just me since it seems to be the norm with older homes as well as new builds. I've thought of replacing w/dark stained doors, which I think would also be pretty with the trim color. I'm not a fan of white trim w/stained doors, again, just my taste. I know it's not easy making decisions. ;o)...See MoreUsing Quartzite and Wood for Countertops in Kitchen - Too Much?
Comments (5)We are building a kitchen and have all natural cherry cabinets, and considering things such as white/gray marble, soapstone, and Fusion quartzite, so not afraid of light or dark, or heavily veined vibrant colors. But the proposed quartzite in the original post, in my opinion, doesn't belong in a domestic kitchen - maybe in a commercial setting, but it's too somber and depressing for me to look at for any period of time [like 5 minutes or more], and I think the owner will tire of it pretty quickly. But as an old Italian friend use to say, "Taste is taste said the cat...." [Fill in the blank] Our island will be a 4 by 8 edge grain Boos butcher block, 2 ¼ inches thick, and from my experience it goes with most anything [not so end grain, which is too busy, less stable, not available in as large a size, and fights the counters and cabinets for attention], Hard to beat the manufacturer or quality of the countertop, and NOT "very expensive," even in that thickness. It is being delivered on site at a cost of about $65 per sq. ft., but installation is almost free by comparison to anything but laminate - it's an easy DIY project for a capable woodworker or any finish carpenter. The biggest hassle will be finding 4 strong backs to carry it into the house. :)...See MoreFrustrated and overwhelmed
Comments (15)I suggest you spend a lot of time looking a inspiration pictures. Search higher end log homes on Zillow.com and Pinterest.com for inspiration pictures. Modern taste won't necessarily translate well to this home. These need their own aesthetic vibe that is timeless. I love slate. I've used it in a bunch of homes of a variety of ages and styles. It wears like iron. It's a natural substance and may pair well with the wood. I particularly like the "black" slate. It's not really black, rather a very dark grey with a hint of greenish undertone. If you have a lot of horizontal chinking between logs, the solid visual of the black slate may be quieter than some of the multi-colored varieties. It's certainly worth considering. It just depends on the type and color of the logs....See Morekariyava
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