Question regarding staining or sealing douglas fir beams and ceiling
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Comments (22)palimpsest- I understand your point about waiting on the floors. However, there are a few reasons why we want to get the flooring done right away. 1) Our plan was/is to have the floors complete before moving everything in....we have a large family with lots of kids and so conveniece is a factor for us. Our official move in date is the 31st. 2) You are right that there are alot of design decisions that are still "up in the air" as far as paint colors, furniture, ect- but I feel the first step before anything else would be to have the floors done....no other decisions would be able to be made with confidence until we have a starting point with the floors. 3) The wall to wall carpeting is hideous in there and really closes off the space (I know it's hard to see from just a few pictures). We will be using the non-fireplace side of the great room as our dining room and so having the carpet in there is not only impractical, but will make the space feel very crowded with dining and living room furniture. Of course, having said all of that, we would certainly still hold off on the flooring if we were completely unsure of what we wanted. The thing is that we DO know we want a wood floor. And my husband thinks the light hickory would look fine throughout. So I was willing to go with that decision (until just recently now I became hesitant)and that is why we have the flooring guy scheduled to come tomorrow to take final measurements and get the wood ordered. So the decision doesn't HAVE to be made tomorrow, it's just that my husband would be greatly annoyed with me putting everything behind schedule because of my last minute hesitations. All I am looking for is confirmation that the hickory will look ok in the space and if so, whether to leave it natural or stain it dark....See MoreDouglas Fir for decking?
Comments (13)Our decking contractor built us a deck out of Trex Transcend (wood grained plastic coating on the top and sides Trex--"rope swing" color) on the top side and dark burnished chocolate brown on the underside of the Trex boards. The framing, floor joists, posts, and glulam beams are all out of" Douglas Fir." The posts are all being wrapped in white vinyl. The fascia perimeter is also covered with Trex Transcend. We had to add additional post to make the deck freestanding, because of the brick veneer. They will also be wrapped in vinyl. I would love any suggestions on how to make the the beams on the inside next to the house look better too. I would greatly appreciate any input on what is the a very good low maintenance long lasting sealant for Douglas Fir wood that will look good with this white and taupe color combo. I have heard that solid body stains will eventually flake and peel and have to be sanded down and restained in 5 years, which isn't very appealing, although I like that look a lot and it covers up most of the woods' imperfections. Clear (non-pigmented) stains can be sprayed on with a garden sprayer, but I've heard it's better to brush it on, so it'll soak in better, and doesn't risk getting spray droplets on the top side of the boards that might stain them. Transparent or translucent stains with pigment look very nice, but really show when they need to be re-done, and you have to mask everything off to avoid getting stain on the Trex boards. Our deck is on the west side of our home and wraps around to an upper smaller deck on the south. About half of it has a roof over it. Does anyone have a stain/sealant they've used that they really like? How long did it last before having to be re-done? Also, it's too late to seal the top side of the floor joists, which I now know should have been done. Any suggestions or tips about which sealer(s) works best and how to protect the bare "Douglas Fir" wood that shows between the Trex boards, now that the deck is nearly completed. We have the metal hidden fastener system. Anyone have any info or experience about which lasts the longest--oil or water based stains? How long you can go before having to re-seal them? How long will a Douglas Fir framework last if you keep it sealed? Which last longer primer & paint or stain? Many thanks for your help!...See MoreSeal Maxx - Part 2
Comments (49)It's fall and I just saw the SealMaxx add. I have a court restraining order to keep me 1 mile away from any Lowes, Home Depot, or Menards--I don't do home improvement well! The add made me think, despite whatever it said, I thought, YES, for 25 years I don't have to do anything but sit on the deck drinking Margaritas and listening to Santana. So what the heckIÂll call and get an estimate. They could not give me an estimate over the phoneÂthey had to "see" the deck. When the salesman got there, in suit and tie, he had a clipboard, calculator, and measuring wheel. He looked at my deck and said "oh!" Although I donÂt have any curves, my deck does have some angle points. I watched him start to measure, and measure, and measure, and measure. Finally, he said well I think I will just take an average of each dimension and asked if that sounded good to me. Really I told him, itÂs just a rectangle and a triangle. He measured the rectangle as the base of the triangle, rather than the longer length, and he measured the height and base of the triangle and multiplied them together; added the numbers and said there. Now, I know he is not the installer, but if he is selling this stuff, shouldnÂt he have a simple understanding of geometry and the formula for the area of a triangle. Furthermore, if this stuff is priced by the square footÂI could have given him that number over the phone and saved us all a lot of time. Finally after he showed the price, he was unsure if it could be done this year; when we set the appointment there was no problem getting it done this year. Actually I said I would prefer it be done in next summer. So for the big close, he said normally he would need 1/2 down now as a deposit to hold a place for next summer--he could accept a little less. I asked for a copy of the warranty when he first arrived, and again as he was doing the estimate, he assured me he would give me oneÂI never got one. I want to quote a statement on the back of the estimate: "If the cleaning process is more difficult than anticipated, requiring extra time and labor there will be an additional charge, not to exceed 15%." I will never sign an agreement with this clauseÂthey sent someone out to look at it, give me a quote and move on donÂt hide a 15% up-charge based on feelings. And, what is the difference between "time" and "labor," and how is each measured, a different value for time and different value for labor? Ok, done with the sarcasm. Bottom line. I read with great interest all the posts, I wish I lived near Kevin so he could actually come out and do my job! However I do feel mislead on the deck staying "like new color," granted my interpretation of the advertising materials (wondered why the salesman was pushing the stain every time I told him I liked natural). Kevin has convinced me my interpretation/perception may be in error. ItÂs not maintenance free. ItÂs expensive. I think I will just hire someone every 2-4 years to refinish it....See Moreusing douglas fir for decking
Comments (10)John: I called several building supply stores in the area and none of them have heard of TWP, also one paint store, so where do you get it or is this a distributor only product? What is the problem with putting roofing between the boards; I was told this by and old wood worker who has been at it for 40 years, said it would stop the wood from rotting. On one of those home improvment shows I saw them put flasing between the joust and deck; would that be better? btw where is Little Fall Creek, I live out in the country by Coos Bay on the south coast. Thanks for the help Tummy...See Morelc
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