New Natives 2019
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Comments (59)Jennifer, It is crazy what the wind can do! I hate our windy March weather and always look forward to the calmer weather of April. Let's hope that we get calmer weather in April this year. Jen, There's a dog like that in every crowd, isn't there! I am laughing so hard, and I bet the doggy parents were too. We have had an occasional mud-loving dog too. Larry, I've lost my light shelf in the garage before, so it can be done. Luckily it was just behind and underneath a lot of junk and I dug it out. I hope you can find yours and don't have to build a new one. Nancy, I find zone 7 a bit harder than zone 8 even though we only moved 80 miles north....it is the way the cold nights just keep coming back after a relatively long period of warmer nights. I can look at our temperatures for this week and feel like I could put tomato plants in the ground by the end of the week, and it might work, but then April could arrive and bring back cold nights like it did last year. That's the hardest part for me....the huge inconsistencies in the weather. Then, there's those years we warm up really early and I love, love, love that because I can plant earlier with relative peace of mind, but.....a warm February and warm March usually mean a hot summer, so are they really a good sign after all? Oh, and microclimate is everything. They said we'd be 37 last night, then dropped it to 36....and, because our microclimate doesn't take orders from the NWS, our overnight low was 31 here at the house and 29 at our Mesonet station. So, I've learned I cannot trust the forecast either. It is maddening. I cannot even imagine the adjustments you'd had to make going from zone 3 to zone 7! My tomato plants had 4 hours of sunlight and very light wind yesterday and looked pretty darn happy by the time I brought them inside. So, today we're going to put them out for 5 hours after the chilly air warms up a bit. I keep putting off potting them up again even though I have all the supplies on hand and can do it. I really must do it tomorrow. I must. I'd start potting up today but Tim and I have a day of outdoor chores planned. On the other hand, this week is Spring Break and I'll have both the girls here with me, so I might be too busy playing with baby dolls with the little one and doing crafts and baking with the older one. I am trying to make the most of the time we have together here while they are staying with us because their new house is almost finished and they won't be here much longer. Unless, that is, my son has another day like yesterday.....you can skip the rest if you aren't interested in house mysteries because it isn't gardening-related. Their house is almost done, but you know, once you start poking around in an old house, there is no telling what you'll discover. Their house was redone in the 2005-06 time frame, and I'm not sure what all that involved but suspect it did involved total modernization that include putting up new drywall everywhere, which wouldn't have been easy in a house with 11' ceilings. I know it included a kitchen remodel with a sincere attempt to keep the old charm (successfully too) and new double-paned custom windows in the old Victorian style (very tall windows---about 7'-8' tall and thinner than modern day windows), and this probably also is when the central HVAC system was installed. However, there remains a huge attic fan that I cannot even describe (I'll try to on some boring rainy day) that likely dates back to the early days. While most of the house somewhat makes sense, the closet in the master bedroom has been a odd looking thing all along that I had believed was not always a closet. It does have drywall but had carpet whereas the rest of the house had hardwood except for tile in the kitchen and bathrooms. It also has an oddly-placed strip of border type wallpaper at about chair-rail height but nothing but painted drywall above and below, and the stupid border was a MLB one. In a closet. A closet with a mini-closet built in at the north end. So, with questions about the weird closet (honestly, big enough to have been nursery or a toddler's bedroom) in his mind, Chris went exploring. He pulled up the carpet intending to buy and lay hardwood if he could find a close match to the color of their existing flooring. Instead, he found the home's original hardwood from 1932, albeit covered in what looks like a gray paint. It sands off easily though, so he's going to restore the closet floors. I'm guessing that closet is maybe 5' wide and 12 to 14' long. Intrigued by the hardwood, he began peeling off the wallpaper border, but only drywall was beneath it. So, he then tore out the wall that separated the mini closet at the end of the big closet (after calling Tim and I to consult on whether it was load-bearing----which it was not). Anyhow, eventually he was sending us photos of shiplap walls, with tons of nails---some of which look handmade and likely date back to 1932. He found a beadboard ceiling--you know, the old original beadboard that was put up one skinny board at a time. After he kept sending us photos, we dropped the projects we were working on outdoors, carried in the tomato plants, and drove up there to see the stuff he was uncovering because by then we were just too curious about how it all looked in person. So, once we got there, it got really interesting. To get to the shiplap he had to remove very thick drywall that looks like it is 5/8" thick, and beneath that he found three separate layers of wallpaper---one obviously from the 1960s, one from around the late 1940s or early 1950s and one from the 1930s. There were layers of cheesecloth between each wallpaper layer, and the bottom wallpaper layer wasn't glued down...it was nailed down! My word! I never heard of that before. Would they have wallpapered a closet back then and didn't they have wallpaper paste? The other bedrooms have tiny closets more typical of that time frame, so we think that my original belief from the very first time we saw the house that the closet originally was a dressing room or a nursery probably is accurate, and the tiny closet within the closet was the original closet. In the north wall of that tiny closet, a large section of shiplap didn't match the other shiplap exactly and had been pieced in to fill what probably was an exterior window back in the day. So.....now that they have found the hidden history of that room buried there in the closet, they want to take down the rest of the drywall in the closet, stain it a walnut color, refinish the floors, turn 1/3 of it into a nice, neat closet for them with built-in shelving and clothing racks (they are minimalists and don't hang on to huge amounts of clothing that they don't wear....) and then turn the other half of the closet into a nice little office type nook with a desk and space for a computer and all that. I think this project will only take a week or so extra, but you know I'm laughing....because now they're already talking about 'someday' doing something in the other rooms, maybe exposing the beadboard ceilings or something. Oh, and the closet always had very old, very nice trim around the interior of the closet door, but it was flush with the drywall....so now we know why....they added the drywall and cut it to fit around the old, existing trim around the door. We had puzzled over why there was trim around the door on the interior of the closet. This is like being a house detective--figuring out what was done and when and how and why. That sort of project to uncover more of their home's hidden history will have to wait though because they don't intend to do it before they move in. The longer they work on the house, the more they fall in love with with its history. They had intended to remove and replace an old side door that leads out to the driveway at the back of the house, but when they discovered it was the original front door with the original hardware and huge, thick locks, they decided to keep it. It also has one of those old crystal doorknobs. (A neighboring home still has this exact same door as the front door, so they're guessing it was moved from the front to the side during an earlier remodeling.) 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Iris S (SC, Zone 7b)
5 years agoWalking the dogs in the rain today, I noticed enough weeds in my lawn to keep the Name that Plant forum busy for months. Plus some really dangerous looking thistles.
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoI was looking at where Acmispon americanus is concentrated in the country. It covers the entire west coast ,the state of Texas, Virginia, and Minnesota. I'm just getting over a cold but it's been bad the last couple of days. That's why I haven't been on much. I'm in nocturnal mode again lol. I could try contacting the Minnesota wild ones and see if they can muster up some Acmispon americanus seeds.
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/57049-Acmispon-americanus
Jay 6a Chicago
5 years agoTriosteum perfoliatum.
Triosteum perfoliatum.
Triosteum perfoliatum.
Snowberry Clearwing Moth.
Snowberry Clearwing Moth.
long tongued bee
long tongued bee
bombus, bumblebee.
Deer love to eat the upper part of the plant.
"yum!"
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These are the plants that I want to order.Streptopus lanceolatus.
Clintonia umbellata.
Andropogon ternarius.
Apios priceana.
Asclepias amplexicaulis.
Asclepias quadrifolia.
Cuphea cyanea.
Stachytarpheta red.
Stachytarpheta purple.
Veronicastrum Cupid and Fascination.
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5 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
5 years agoJay 6a Chicago
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoPackera anonyma.
Packera anonyma. I'm sure it's a host plant for something.
Northern Metalmark Butterfly.
Northern Metalmark Butterfly.
Gem Moth
Carpenter bee.
Cuckoo bee.
Halictid bee.
Syrphid Fly.
Tachinid Fly.
Probably all the native Packeras host the same insects. This is based on Packera aurea from Illinois wildflowers. I had Packera glabella plants appear on their own at both places. There should be a bunch more from seeds this year.
http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/woodland/plants/gold_ragwort.htm
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoIt looks like there is some Plantago patagonica growing about a county away. I will have to explore the areas where it's supposed to be growing. Nobody is offering fresh seed for it still!
Plantago patagonica
Possibility Place, the local native nursery has a lot of cool native trees. They have red mulberry, yellowwood, and Carolina Silverbell to name a few. I wish I had space for more trees.
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoI was watching mountain garden videos and then found their site. He has Laportea canadensis. It's one of the impossible to find plants. A Red Admiral host plant. They have some very cool medicinal herbs. I'm going to start eating my white mulberries. They are very good for your health. I don't mean just the berries. The leaves, twigs and bark. Rudbeckia laciniata has the same health benefits as Echinacea so you can just harvest the roots for medicine and keep your aggressive clump in bounds.
https://www.mountaingardensherbs.com/seeds-available
Laportea canadensis
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoIris S (SC, Zone 7b)
5 years agoYes Jay, please read carefully before eating anything. Need you around here! I am so glad the 26 degrees from last night didn’t do anything to the flowers on my plum tree. It was buzzing this afternoon. It was great!
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoWell, I'd really like to buy that huge thick book on Chinese herbal medicine. The 'materia medica'. I'll find out how to prepare them. Teas or tinctures I would think. Obviously eating twigs is not healthy. There's even a parasitic plant that grows on the white mulberries in China, and the Chinese use the wood shavings from the infected parts for another special healing herb. It's just really cool because I'm just starting to find out that a lot of the plants I'm growing are medicinals and I should start learning more about them so I can start using them. I got to the hydroponics store and picked up more coco/perlite mix, got more potting soil not Kellog, something else plus more perlite. I hope to get some chicken grit tomorrow to spread on top of the seeds to keep the soil from being compacted. Iris, the wild ones told me they are starting a program to get more local common stores to sell more native plants. I thought it was funny since we were just talking about it. I wonder if I could mix chicken grit into the soil mix to make it more arable? I wonder how much chicken grit costs??
Iris S (SC, Zone 7b)
5 years agoI have no idea about the chicken grits. I got this book as a present once. Didn’t read too much of it yet (so many books!) I looked under what the mulberry leaves are used in this one. Look what’s a few lines under it... might have to compete with your caterpillars!
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I thought you said ( somewhere ?) that you never heard of Isabella Tiger Moths. That's what wolly bears turn into!
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoLaportea canadensis.
I don't know. That would mean that it takes less comments with pics each time to reach that point. I'll wait a day or 2. Laportea looks just like nettle.Laportea canadensis.
Dandy_Line, let me know if you see these photos ,or not.
Iris S (SC, Zone 7b)
5 years agoJay 6a Chicago
5 years agoJay 6a Chicago
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoI can blow up pictures now. Maybe it only works when I enter the thread via email.
Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Cynanchum laeve. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Leptadenia species. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Gomphocarpus cancellatus. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Asclepias cryptoceras. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Matelea reticulata. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Pseudolithos species. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Ceropegia species. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Hoodia species. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Hoya species. Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae.
Tabernaemonana panacaqui. Apocynaceae.
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