Wow! This is what Gruss looks like in my garden generally. She will fade White sometimes In the Heat of the summer.

Gruss an Aachen two days ago in my garden in Tasmania.

Sharon, you are right. He likes the bright colored HTs. The couple I have that have similar bloom form are too pale for his taste.

The Omg, I looked up Abracadabra and burst ut laughing! But, my 10 year old son came up to see what was funny and he says he likes it!!

Vaporvac, now that coloring on Gruss and my hubby would be happy.

Sharon, I am limited in space. I can fit a few in this bed that I am working on, but a bright HT would not go well. But your idea is a good one. At some point, we would take out a play set as kids are too old for it and it would give me some space. I still can't envision a double delight there, but maybe can put something that he likes, if not there in containers.

Pierre de Ronsard looks like Eden? I would plant that in a heartbeat, but probably is too pale.

I do need to finish out this bed, I thought summer song was it, with maggie, but I guess it's not available here, apparently not suited to our climate.

What about Christopher Marlowe? Bright and bicolored but still Austin :)

Pierre de Ronsard comes in three colours - pink, blush, and red. My OH chose the red. It is a red that is on the pinkish side rather than the orange side so I can tolerate it.

It doesn't photograph well because the UV of the light down here is very strong and reflects off the petals causing it to appear bleached. It is only on the reverse of the petals that it does this in photos. Other Australians have the same problem with the same roses so it must be the UV factor.

I'm going to give a couple of recommendations for modern roses. They would definitely look different from what you currently have!

Hybrid Tea: Fragrant Cloud. Don't be deceived by the somewhat salmonly look here - she's DARK orange. She'd look fabulous juxtaposed with apricots, and is one of the most fragrant roses you'll ever sniff.

Floribunda (but tall) - Sheila's Perfume

Super fragrant, blend of yellows / apricots / pinks. Changes colors daily, beautiful form:

Grandiflora - Arizona

Stunning blooms, apricot/orange/pink - no fragrance, but so beautiful you won't care

These are some of the roses and other plants I have in my rose border. Red Pierre de Ronsard (same as Red Eden) does not go with these colours.

Karen, the roses look awesome. I will look into fragrant cloud as I'm a sucker for smelly flowers. Thank you so much for the recommendations.

Lola, what is the smaller. pink flower in the center? Your flowers look a lot like mine, mine are very very pale though. I don't even have a yellow.

If I had space, I would do a. corner with bright colors, deep yellow, orange and bicolors. But don't think many of these do well n out hot and humid area...i was mostly going by what was sold on ARE.

That one is Leonardo Da Vinci. It is smaller than an Austin but it quite lovely.

That is lovely. It had enough color and maybe a ht type form opening up to please hubby.....have to look it up. Thanks! Is it fragrant?

I feel like he associates roses with the HT form and color. He doesn't like any single flowers, or hibiscus, or bouganvilla etc either. Oh well.

It has a mild fragrance but it is disease resistant, which for me makes up for that deficiency.

You've had some wonderful suggestions. I think Maggie is a great choice.

You mentioned that you hoped that the suggestions would be something available through ARE. Have you thought about visiting ARE with your husband? If he isn't familiar with roses, a picture may not be helpful.

The whole family visited ARE this fall. Unfortunately most roses were gone with empty spots.

But I don't think they carry the type my husband likes. Saturated or multi colored with the HT type blooms.

We did pick up several roses, mostly what I liked. There was nothing there that he pointed out in particular. My son did pick up a red and I did not get it, but then thinking back, now ordered a red. for spring. I will fit it in somehow.

Lola Moth, that Leonardo da Vinci is just beautiful. ( It also looks like a very big plant.) I looked it up and there are tons of pictures of it on Help-me-find, indicating it is very popular.

Look how well it goes with the scarlet red poppy on the left in this picture: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.225383

Could I trouble you to ask what the other roses in the bouquet are?

I have a feeling Rekah's husband likes the 5" scrolled HTs of his childhood. He is thinking of something along the lines of Crimson Glory or Chrysler Imperial.

My husband really loved Don Juan, which we bought once for sale at a vegetable stand in Maryland. We reasoned that even if it is not hardy we could enjoy it for the rest of the summer as an annual. It lasted us several years, as a matter of fact. Of course it was HUGE. He hasn't really warmed to Munstead Wood, to tell the truth.

To me, however, even though I've only seen it in pictures, Sweet Pegge would be just the sort of rose I myself would like -- not least because of its modest size.

Monarda, thanks for pointing out the size on the da Vinci, I dont have space for huge plants in current location.

You hit the nail on the head. I recollect my mom growing 15 or so roses, all HT's, bright and saturated colors, dont recollect any fragrance. We used to cut them and make mixed bouquets for vases. the goats (India) used to scale 6 to 7 ft walls and eat them.

i dont recollect any spraying, or any diseases, they did get watered daily. Our area was not that humid though.

His mom still grows them in pots as she almost has no soil to speak of, they are lined up in the front courtyard.

And my mom also made the same comment that I have all the same colors, why did I not plant some variety.

Funny even back in those days, i always asked my mom about the wild pink rose that would grow everywhere and smell like heaven (rosewater). We never had that in our house, but lots of fragrance from a huge jasmine vine that would shower flowers every evening. I remember we had to cut it down to expand the car port, but I digress now.

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Don Juan: We had him in our old house, at the front, growing against a pillar. our house was a very light grey/white brick, and he looked great. lots of flowers though the growing season, did not get huge (none of the roses get that big in Houston? Is it the summer heat?)

My husband loved it so much, i did plant him in our new house. It has given me 2 tiny blooms in 3 years. maybe location is not ideal, i have to tinker with that side bed a bit next year.I put a pink Don Juan next to it and it died.

Here is what i'm thinking: I will finish the bed with stronger colored(darker pink and apricots), but cupped/full roses mixed with the lighter colors. I am planning to incorporate Seweet pegge, in a raised container. I will add a couple of multi colored HT's in containers , i think the multi's will be easier for me to blend in than very strong colors. There is space to put in more containers, so depending on how this goes I can add more, or move these. my husband has said so many times that he likes multi colors, sure he will like it.

Containers are a bit tricky here, summer gets supremely hot. But eventually I have to learn to grow plants permanently in containers as we dont have much space in the ground, but have a large patio that is begging for some color and fragrance.

I understand the need for deep colors especially as during the summer heat so many pastels fade unhappily toward white. Cramoisi Superieur is a tough, eager rose that will grow anywhere with crimson blooms in well spaced clusters, small red globes that keep their color. The bush will draw the eye wherever placed. It doesn't mind being trimmed back if it gets a little out of bounds. It is fragrant, of raspberries, to my nose, that you smell from a distance. This link is to a photo from a tx grower: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.12661 

Maggie is a slightly larger flower, old fashioned, cupped, even more fragrant than cramoisi, raspberry mixed with old garden rose. The word "pink" does not do justice to it's color, nor do photos, which seem to flatten it toward pink or toward red; but it is neither. It is a really rich glowing scrumptious pure berry color somewhere between raspberry sorbet and Hungarian cherry soup. It will go fine with pastels. The canes are more lax than cramoisi, I've always kept it near a fence for support, but it might please someone who is color hungry.

General Schablikine gives an overall impression of deep color, though individual flowers are variable and lighter toward the centre; this is a photo from another Houston grower that looks similar to its appearance in my yard: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.188655. Very informal flowers but flushes eagerly and repeatedly. Pretty foliage.

For flowers of perfect form that might be both dark enough and pastel enough to please everyone maybe Belinda's dream? The flowers are very large and uniform, which is not my cuppa tea usually, but it is an attractive dark pink right now in the cool weather and the flowers have presence. The bush hasn't much foliage at the bottom, but has been strong and persistent through triple digits temps, millenial droughts and floods which I have to admire. Canes are thicker than my thumb at the base. Help it bush out by putting two or three close together.

Get a Double Delight and call it a day! LOL! ;0 Planting these in a pot is a great idea to start with. Perhaps you can find some "body bags" at your local big box stores. Menards actually had some great choices last year and they've all done really well for me. I planted them in pots until I decided where to plant them. Aldi's also has really nice ones, but you have to be quick or they'll be gone. This way you can experiment without a large investment. I was wondering how you husband would like Peace as a bi-colour.

starmade, thanks for singing the praises of Maggie. I just love this rose. Flamenco Rosita is another for which I have high hopes.

P.S. Rekha, I thoroughly enjoyed your description of your childhood rose growing milieu and your mom's reaction to delicate coloured roses. And here I thought deer were such a problem! Geez, I could never deal with goats that scale walls! That's a rose grower's nightmare! ; 0

Vapour, I was actually considering Chicago Peace for one of the roses that my husband would like. Planning to order from Heirloom today. I am not sure I can handle double delight!

Sutters Gold that Paul mentioned on this post also looks good to me.

My first Don Juan was a body bag from walmart, of all the places, and it did well. The second that I paid 3X is languishing.

I have not thought about the roses and goats in many many years! funny how memories are. We would smell them all the way to the back of the house and that is how my mom would realize they are in the yard. and chase them out!!

Monarda - I had no idea LDV could grow so big. The label says 1.5m tall so I have once again been sucked in to buying a rose that will outgrow its allotted space. I have it under a tall thin window so I will trim it to frame the window in the future.

The roses in my photo are White Iceberg, then Troilus next to it, LDV below that, then Windermere below that. On the far right is Jubilee Celebration, with Comtes de Champagne below it.

Oh, gosh, Lola Moth, Troilus is really beautiful. Hats off to David Austin, a genius -- RIP! Also Jubilee Celebration and Comptes de Champagne -- you couldn't have devised a better tribute. It looks like an antique still life.

I'm sorry this isn't going to answer the question directly, but if it's "your" garden you decide! If he chips in and digs, mulches, weeds, etc, ok let him have a few. But the way you keep referring to the garden as "your" garden... give him a little plot somewhere and let him plant what he wants. Sorry I'm being so salty but I could never imagine letting anyone else dictate the colors or forms in my garden. I guess I never really had anyone around who really cared what I planted or had opinions about it! Maybe I have scared them off! Lol

Bumblekim - I understand what you mean, but I think of the garden as an extension of the house so I would always ask for my OHs opinion before buying furniture or painting a wall. Having said that, I have to admit I allowed my OH to choose the new couch and I regretted it immediately. It was a huge investment and is the centre of attention in the living room, and I can't stand it. I now have to wait for either the couch or my OH to die before I can like my living room again. I have learned to only offer him a selection of things I like so that he gets a choice, but it is limited..

LOL Bumblekin.... that sounds like a sure way to a divorce....

I am very blessed that my husband has basically given me carte Blanche on picking of the plants. Also he has very good taste we're very compatible as far as color and design I'm so lucky that we have similar taste.

My 1st husband had horrendous taste totally the opposite of mine and yet he insisted on doing all of the designing and purchasing.

It was kind of embarrassing. perhaps that is why he is an ex.

I have been trying to look up the Maggie rose and every time I do some pop singer comes up is there a place that sells this rose that I can check it out?

Maggie I got mine from ARE. Maybe they'll have another free shipping for Valentine's as they did last year. I also get better searches when I put "bush" after the variety name. If that doesn't work, I try "rosa". Maggie rose bush

Thanks Vap, that is a good idea to type in bush .

I will go to ARE to check it

Cool Roses also sells Maggie.

As beautiful as she is, she is a big girl and I have no room for those biggies

I bet in the end you'll wind up really liking the addition of some stronger colours amongst your pastels. But I think I'd advise searching amongst the OGRs for a start. Even when they are of strong colours, they tend to harmonize easily, whereas some /many? of the strong coloured modern roses can appear garish to some people.

Back from a brief holiday, thanks for all the sughestions. Yes, I see it more as a collaboration, it is our space.....and whenever I ask him for help, he does eventually help :).

I have ordered Chicago peace and granada from heirloom, let's see how it goes. And I agree, I've always had the best results in decorating when I have pushed my boundaries, so hoping for the same in roses. Will update as things progress. Thanks a lot!!

Wishing you the best!

here is a photo

Omg, that is a striking picture! Very pretty! Will look it up.

I don't have much yard space, our house came with a large pool, which is great as the boys have a blast in the summers, but it leaves very little space for a garden. I have been contemplating containers as we have a large patio.

Well, today is our wedding anniversary and DH bought me roses. These are the type he likes

Happy Anniversary!

Happy Anniversary. Those roses are beautiful for cutting. They were bred to have lasting flowers one to a very long stem to go in tall vases. In the garden they tend to grow tall with the flowers on the top of the plant. Here is one that is a bit similar to yours, Rio Samba: https://creativeartworksblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/28/rio-samba-roses/  
I gather there are some catalogs that sell roses for the cut flower market to regular gardeners, but I am not sure which they are. .

Happy Anniversary, what a sweet husband to bring you flowers.

Why dont you do a bed for him in the backyard with all of the bright, multi tone roses that he likes and your bed in front can be the roses that you like?

And many more!!! : )

Kristine, our house faces north and gets almost no sun. Also they backyard is small, we have a pool. I will fit some in...have a small corner that we will be clearing out sometime.

Happy anniversary!! I think it’s so sweet of you to include your husbands taste in the garden . Mine doesn’t care at all about the garden which is perfect for me bc it’s my happy place . I did let him bring home this screaming orang red daylily and when it blooms we laugh about it. It’s horrendous in my pastel paradise:). But I appreciate him walking the garden with me. And being so generous when I need to order things . And not noticing when I bump the beds out a few feet ;)

Happy anniversary from me, too. Your DH is a darling for getting you roses, but I see that this type of colour would clash with pastels. But what about a rose that has the two bright colours, but blended and sort of softened? I'm thinking for example of something like Augusta Luise...might he go for that sort of thing?

Sometimes a little clash livens things up, that was the great landscape architect Russell Page's advice. Really.

Thanks Bart! Augusta Luise looks beautiful. He will definitely like it. I need to fit her in, i like it too. I did get a couple of roses that I'm hoping he likes, Chicago peace and Granda. Got some large containers and see how they work out.

Yeah,that's the ticket! Start out with colours that sort of blend both of your tastes together! I don't think you can lose,honestly; you both seem to care so much about each other; you'll find a common ground on this ,for sure.

Thanks Bart! I think for me is to not get carried away with just what I like. I'm sure it will work out, it actually fun trying to figure out the placements. And I'm discovering all these blended colored Rose's that I'm sure will pop against some of the paler colors....

Ok I finally remembered! There is a David Austin with his traditional shape but with really modern rainbow-colors! It's called Christopher Marlowe, maybe this will please everyone?