Moen Genta (or other black matte) faucet quality?
Emily A
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Moen vs Price Fister fixtures
Comments (3)Price Pfister is a Black & Decker company. I have sold thousands of faucets and would never buy or sell Price Pfister. It's a low quality faucet and they have poor customer service. Moen is a good midle of the road faucet, I had one for 20 years with 0 problems. I would recommend Moen. Kohler is a better product with excellent customer service and they give a lifetime warrenty on every faucet they sell! Yes, lifetime since 1997! My $0.02, Dan...See MoreFaucets from Big Box stores truly Lower quality?
Comments (118)@jwillhouse - Your plumber has a vested interest in convincing you to buy things with a markup. I can assure you that the same part numbers are the same no matter where the faucet is ordered from. As for your contract with your plumber, is it a time and materials contract or cost plus contract? Your post notes that your plumber lists retail, wholesale, and a 15% markup. If it is a time and materials contract and the 15% is the mark up from wholesale to retail, then it is on the low end of markups. If it is a cost plus contract then the markup is on his actual cost less any rebates, so the 15% should get added to what he actually paid not the listed wholesale price. In a cost plus contract, the 15% is likely unavoidable as it is still a cost even if you buy it somewhere else. Many contractors in a time and materials contract don't allow you to supply your own items. --- While it is absolutely true that you can benefit from sourcing products cheaper from sources other than you plumber, we should recognize that to some extent it is a zero sum game. Most plumbers are not getting rich off a single family home, they are just finding alternative ways to present the profit they need to make. So while adding profit to a faucet may seem like a ripoff, if all the faucets were bid at cost the plumber would likely just charge more for the installation and you would be in the same position. It can still be an advantage to you to get your faucet at a cheaper price if your plumber allows, but don't fall into the trap of thinking you are getting ripped off just because the plumber adds profit there instead of somewhere else....See MoreHow is Price Pfister quality?
Comments (30)Ive read all of the answers above and am new to the plumbing scene but have been studying a lot of blog sites of late to help form my on opinion for future use for my home. I have a good friend in the internet supply business that has helped me understand the quality issue and has helped me answer and carry on some conversations here. Bottom line is 1. PP is a great brand for the price 2. The urban myth about supply house mdse IS TRUE, many times the box store versions of the same model will have plastic fittings and parts or will be missing installation parts that you need to make a complete installation. My buddy as an example provides EVERYTHING with a faucet needed to install that faucet and back up phone assistance free of charge to help you install it. Additionally a supply house will provide quicker warranty and supply of replacement parts than any discounter 3. The very best product for faucets is GROHE. Man they showed me an example of a Grohe spayer head as an example compared to any other and it was the difference between driving a Mercedes (which I do) and a Ford. If you shop some of the online discounters you can get the Grohe quality at a reasonable price. hope this helps.... Im saving for Grohe myself...LOL Here is a link that might be useful: National Builder Supply...See MoreQuality of Kingston Brass faucets
Comments (3)There is a company Starcraft Custom Builders, who do a wonderful review of all the faucet companies. They discuss their criteria for their judgements and they are very detailed, clear, and understandable. For instance, they tell you that they do not approve of faucet that do not meet the lead standards, they tell you where the faucet is made, how much USA components or Chinese components are in them, and why this matters to some people. Starcraft's Kingston Brass Review...See Moreci_lantro
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