I am a veteran (of the Vietnam era)
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Comments (13)In Canada the day is called Rememberance Day, the eleventh month at the eleventh hour is when the service takes place. The wearing of the red poppy is evident on almost everyone's outerwear as a sign of rememberance prior to this day. Every year the crowds at the service seem to get larger with families bringing the children so although the parade of older veterans might be getting smaller, the schools are doing their part in bringing the history, and reasons of war to the children. Many have relatives now in Afghanistan or other areas. So, yes, the children will be aware of this day and see the veterans as long as it lasts. One particular school had its grade twelve class pick a soldier who died in battle in WW11 and was buried in France. Their assignment was to search the biography of their soldier and on their trip to France find his grave site and tell the rest of the class about him. I expect it was a surprise to many to find that some were their age. It was poignant to see some in tears reading of their soldier. You can bet they will remember what this day stands for in years to come. Good on that teacher....See MoreThinking of veterans today
Comments (22)Thank you socks! I served in the USMC during peace time. I spent a year in a foreign country. My husband served in the Navy and was on a ship that was the first to fire on Beirut in 1984. My son and his wife are current full time members of TN Army National Guard. They have been deployed to foreign countries several times. Any time you perform a job that is not on US soil, your life is in jeopardy. There are many service members who are in jeopardy here in the US. Need I remind you of the recent incidents on our soil? You don't have to face "hostile fire" to be deemed a veteran. A veteran is anyone who served in the military; voluntary or involuntary. The job they performed or the experience they had has nothing to do with it. After reading ellendi6161's post, I agree with her and see Snidely's point from that perspective. I don't automatically acknowledge someone's service because of an over the counter hat, patch or other banner. If it comes up in conversation, I will talk about their service and what they did but I don't make a big deal about it. I don't make a big deal about MY prior service either! There are very few who know and I prefer to keep it that way. I made the choice to join the service and I enjoyed my time in. I would do it all over again without any regrets. I sometimes ride motorcycles with some former and current service members. There are those who wear ball caps, vests or some other adornment to indicate their prior service. The current service members are quite obvious due to how they keep their hair. During one long trip across the state, we stopped at sit down dinner chain restaurant. As people left, they walked past our table. Many people stopped and thanked all the MEN for their service. When I mentioned that everyone at the table was a veteran, the "acknowledgers" basically dismissed me. While I didn't get mad or anything, it was rather disheartening to know that women's prior service just didn't seem as important. To sit at a table of 14 people, be the only female present and have the prior/current service of the MEN be recognized was a bit of an insult to me. There are some non-veterans who feel they have to go above and beyond to recognize anyone who served. Those folks sometimes mistake those over the counter adornments as actual representation of those who served. You certainly cannot tell by looking at someone if they are prior military....See MoreHow the Vietnam War connected us, and a thank you
Comments (22)Jane, it sounds like you and your neighborhood were horrendously and directly affected by the Vietnam war years. It must have been terrible. There were many problems with the administration of the draft and one of the biggest was that practices varied greatly from one Selective Service board to another (there were hundreds of them or more in the US). To resolve that problem, toward the latter years of the war, the law was changed and the birthday lottery system was put in place as a system directed nationally. The lottery assigned randomly drawn numbers to calendar days of the year and draftees were called based upon the number assigned to their birthday in order. A loose explanation of how it worked - if a young man's birthday was June 5 and the number assigned in the lottery for his birth year was 120, people with birthdays numbered 1-119 would be called first and then it would be the turn of the fellow with a June 5th birthday. For the lottery years, I don't think they ever got past or much past 180 so that those whose birthdays had higher numbers were never called up. In my area, it was rare for a young man to be drafted right at or soon after finishing at high school because of how the system worked overall. Registration into the Selective Service System was required by one's 18th birthday and it took awhile, often a year or more, for them to get to and digest new registrations to process for the draft call. Not everyone attained age 18 before graduating high school (I was 17 myself) and even if so, one could get a student deferment that could be extended for the next year (or initiated) by being enrolled in a college of any kind. Community colleges counted as well as 4 year ones, the only requirement was to be taking enough classes for the particular school to consider the young man as a full time student. I myself drew a very low number but I had a student deferment at that point. Most of the guys I knew who were drafted were 20 or older, often from blue collar families (why, I don't know) and not pursuing college studies. When I was at Army boot camp, my basic training company was a mix of those who'd joined the National Guard, those who had enlisted, draftees and Army Reserve volunteers like me. The draftees were as I described just before. While there were wait lists, it wasn't that hard to join the National Guard or the (even safer) Reserves to be sure to avoid the personal jeopardy of combat. I joined just as an insurance policy in case the rules changed and or my student deferment was lost and or it ended at graduation. There were many other ways to avoid the draft without leaving the country and frankly my experience was that those who wound up getting drafted had been lazy or inattentive about taking available steps to protect themselves. Because of deferments, the numbers needed, etc., I don't think the draft "take" was ever greater than 1/3 of the eligible individuals of any birth age group. I served my 6 years quietly as a reservist with monthly "meetings" and two weeks of annual "summer camp". I had the equivalent of a professional white collar Army job in my reserve unit - no going out on maneuvers, no combat boots, no out marching in the dirt, no overnights other than summer camp and monthly meetings were 8-5 down the road from where I lived. . By the time I was discharged, the draft and the war had both ended but my personal safety had been ensured. It served its purpose for me. For your neighborhood to have seemingly born such a disproportionate share of the load was most unfortunate. War is horrible and unfortunately as a nation, all these years and military fiascos later, we still haven't learned that we are not the world's police force and that the money spent and lives wasted in distant lands does nothing for our own safety or freedom and can be argued to have the opposite effect....See MoreThailand/Vietnam anyone?
Comments (10)I spent about a month in Thailand last year. I divided my time between Bangkok, Chiang Mai and the island of Koh Samui. I did not use a tour company, though, and planned/booked everything on my own. Thailand is an easy country to travel. English is the second language everywhere. There are cheap and frequent domestic flights between the regions. Public transportation is available in Bangkok, and the rideshare Grab is used throughout most of the country. What I enjoyed about each area: Bangkok--historic temples (wats) and the Grand Palace. The Chatuchak Weekend Market is overwhelming and fantastic. Lots of smaller, interesting museums to explore. There are modern shopping centers and night life in eastern Bangkok, and I do not recommend staying in those areas because the crowds tend to be younger tourists. I stayed in Bangkok's Old Town, which is a bit slower pace, more charming, and closer to the sites I wanted to see. Chiang Mai--note the burning season, but if you're there in Jan/Feb, you'll be fine. I really enjoyed Chiang Mai. It's a mountainous area, and the Doi Inthanon National Park is nearby. Lots of hiking and excursions available. I took an outdoor cooking class here, too. I can provide names/links if you're interested. The city of Chiang Mai itself is very walkable, and has wonderful markets. Koh Samui--for beaches, you'll want to compare Koh Samui with Phuket. For the time of year I was visiting, Koh Samui was recommended. I'm neutral on the island itself, but I did take a fantastic excursion that involved kayaking, hiking and snorkeling around a small island that was a national park. All activities were very doable. Regarding age, I am mid 50s and saw many travelers my age and older. On excursions, the tour guides were mindful of the older tourists, and offered additional assistance, in a gracious but not patronizing way. It's a collectivist culture, so they tend to have a respect for older generations that we don't always have here. The entire country is travel-friendly and walkable. As a solo female, I felt safe everywhere, with sensible precautions. The food was outstanding, and the Thai massages were amazing. The best massages I’ve ever had....See More- 7 years ago
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