What I would do to get a .zone is Google a particular rose and check it out on a different nurseries website like heirloom they normally will have their zones listed for a particular rose

BTW. Nice catalogue. I got mine yesterday too

List the ones that you're interested in, and those of us in your zone who may have grown them will chime in. I will tell you that Barbra Streisand is DEFINITELY a west coast rose (IMO). OTOH, Dick Clark gets rave reviews from the PA/NJ folks.

Checked nurseries on some of the older ones, Frieda Kahlo, Rosie the Riveteer, Lady in Red climber and Easy Spirit. Some say zone 6, some 5. Back and forth. If it's a HT it is most likely z6. I'm more interested in 2019 Floribundas - Celestial Night, Artic Blue, Life of the Party and All Dressed Up.

Violet's Pride is on my buy list. Here's what you find on a check for hardiness zone for Violets Pride:

Weeks - none

Becks - 4-10

Heirloom - 4-10

Regan - 5-9

Witherspoon - 5

Bourgondien - 4-10

HMF - none

High Country - 5

Not much help but I think this one might work here.

You are so right, Cynthia! I would love to grow Love Song, and have tried twice, or was it 3 times..... in different places, one was against the house. It just won't survive it's first winter here, yet it's thriving and big and beautiful at Northland Rosarium, located on a windy high plain where winter is more severe than here. I'm on a lower, warmer elevation, both z5, same town. Like you say, you just don't know unless you try.

Flowers, I was about to suggest Northland Rosarium for good information on colder climate roses. Strange that Love Song is growing there and not at your place. Edmund's won't even send me a catalog. They can't ship to Idaho because of Ag import restrictions. When I ask what restrictions, they said to check with my county extension office. Not helpful if they want my business and so frustrating. I am very interested in Celestial Night and wonder if it's really as gorgeous as those photos of it. Diane

That's terrible customer relations, Diane. Even Tantau will send their expensive catalog to the US, where they can't import their roses. As for Love Song, I don't know - maybe something in my soil, or just bad luck, but I'm not going to try it again, as much as I'd love to grow it. Might try Poseidon. I do love lavender roses.

I bought Bonny from Northland, where it was growing like lightening over an arbor, covering both sides with one plant. I mean, you could almost see it grow. Mine has never been as enormous as hers, but is still going strong, and hers died over one winter a few years ago. You just never know!

Celestial Night should be great for you since one of it's parents is Ebb Tide, and ET does so well in your soil. CN is such an intense color, a little different than the other purpleish roses. And, ruffles are always a bonus! Said to be continuous blooming, too.

I've been obsessing over Arctic Blue since I got the catalogue. I thought the comparison to Palatine's Le Petite Prince was curious, checked it out, and Le Petite Prince is Arctic Ice. So maybe there is hope that Arctic Blue will be a z5 survivor :) I am especially hopeful since I see Blue for You in its parentage. Blue for You has been a rock star for me in terms of hardiness, vigor, and black spot resistance.

I see a lot of magenta in the photos of Celestial Night. Everything is much pinker for me than advertised. Might be my soil. Ebb tide was pink for me. Lovely, but never purple. So I'm betting that CN's "mystical shade of deep plum purple" will be, alas, sorta dark pink.

Life's Little Pleasure's is calling me too! Even though I realize their statement "Those on the West Coast may get the most enjoyment out of Life's Little Pleasures" translates to: "Will blackspot and completely defoliate in New England, even with spray." Still, I'm a glutton for punishment when it comes to mauve.

Ikaye,

My experience with Weeks roses is they generally have winter dieback and black spot susceptibility for me, the severity of which depends on the variety. I spray conventionally for insect and fungal control.

I winter protect to the "Nth." degree, my winter tender roses, Weeks or anyone else's, in an attempt to enable these roses to retain as much live growth as possible come spring. I consider my yearly winterization ritual a minor chore compared to the growing season, day to day care my roses require.

Remember too, the same rose growing in your neighbor's garden next door, may thrive with no special care while yours limps along, and vice versa. It seems every variety of a breeder or rose promoter has its special needs, strengths, and weaknesses, and each one needs to be given a chance.

I would purchase roses that appeal to me and show to have a good record after you have done as much research on them as you can. You never know how they will perform in your garden unless you give them a trial there.

Moses

Ah thanks, Ratdogheads- that's what I get for going from memory on the Arctic Blue. I'll have to check that one out, but being a lavender it's iffy at best right there in zone 5.

Cynthia

I think it is kind of crazy to have the same rose with two different names

and release it like it is new

You could actually order Le Petite Prince and Arctic Ice and have 2 of the same rose

Cool Roses has Arctic Blue, Celestial Nights, and others on Fortuniana.... available in the Spring....

sharon2079 Fortuniana rootstock is a non-starter for those of us in colder zones, that includes the border of 7a/6b. I'll bet that they are all beautiful on Fort in warmer zones.

Cool roses also has own-root roses so it's worthwhile checking. They carry Nahema both ways.

sharon2079

Do you have the Spring availability list for Cool Roses ?