I looked up stachys sylvatica, and while the seeds look the same, I still have not found anything with the unusually shaped foliage. On the plant that I got seeds from, the leaves were not particularly textured at all-- but all the photos I've seen online of various stachys species are quite bumpy/puckered/textured. And the leaves on my (well, not MY, but you know...) are not rounded- they are very arrow shaped. I am surprised, also, at how quickly this thread fell down to the bottom of the page! Thanks for the above suggestions, but I don't think it's quite the same. Any other ideas? Here is a link that might be useful: the seeds look like this one...

Hi, I have some fragrant pink that I can do cuttings of for you it is frosty pink, and I have had a ton of blooms this year. It is on it's 4th flush of blooms. I would love to trade for some of your Koyimae yellow salvia. Let me know, Jean recipesaver2

Brenda, Oh my, another salvia lover. I'm glad I'm with "my people". Thank you for the information. Furman's is definitely in the running then, lol.

I don't think it's either of those, though it looks similar. This one has more maroon color in the stems and calyces. Mine is tall, though at Strybing I believe it does tend to be more lax. This is a fall/ winter bloomer, with virtually no scent. Richard, I am still in the process of moving, ugh! The renovations are taking much longer than I had hoped. Moving my plant collection is an enormous task. I need to get your grewiifolia? seed [what Strybing calls pulchella] into the mail, I know! FYI, Strybing is now in possession of a few plants of the new madrensis x gesneraeflora Cabrillo hybrid, so I'm guessing it should be 'on the market' fairly soon. Let's see if posting photos works... Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us