Have a 36" or Bigger Sink - How Do you Use it? (ex: Galley, Stage)
thecohens
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Comments (77)We have the standard accessories that are provided with our 5' Galley sink (2 deck/cutting boards, two colanders, two mixing bowls, two platforms with round holes that can be used for colander or mixing bowl, one drying rack). All of them can be set level with the counter or turned 90 degrees and fits the lower rim that makes them about 3/4" below the counter level (all Galley accessories have this 90 degree feature which is unique and makes it more useful than some of the other brands.) Because you can put the drying rack or the cutting board/decks on the upper level, you can easily slide the wash basin or other bowl accessories underneath them on the lower ledge. In addition we purchased the wash and serve set and the full bottom grate for both our Galley sinks. We use the wash basin every day and it substitutes as an ice bucket when we entertain and turn our sink into a wet bar. Personally after using this setup, we do not feel we would ever need the drydock with our sinks because the full bottom grate provides another level of drying with the upper drying rack. The full bottom grate is a must for us and extremely useful for drying larger pots and pans, vegetables and provides a much larger drying surface than the drydock would. We would also highly recommend the wash and serve set. We did not purchase any other accessories and so far have found this set up to be perfect. We looked at other fixtures since the Galley Tap fixtures were more expensive than Kohler and some other brands, but are very happy that we chose the Galley Taps because the spigots are specially designed to center on the sink and the soap dispenser is long enough to put soap far enough away from the side of the sink to reach the wash basin easily. The hot/cold tap also extends nicely away from the side of the sink so that we are able to fill pitchers and teapots as well as single serving mugs and glasses easily. The Galley Taps were well worth the investment and look beautiful -- easy to keep clean and shiny. (We have two faucets in our 5' sink and one in our 4' sink in our vacation home.)...See MoreKitchen sink types - which one do you have and why ?
Comments (56)Yes, I know it's different. When we moved into our house, it had a dishwasher. It broke, within a couple months. Dh can fix anything, so he bought the part and fixed it. Then, another part broke. OK, so I'm done trying to glue that dw back together. We bought a new one (when we redid the floor from all the water damage). We bought a nice one, about $500. It got the dishes very clean, worked great, for about 2-3 years. I had been limping along with it, pretending that it did dishes when it started making an awful noise. I finally quit using it, but didn't notice that water was collecting in it and sitting. Yuck! Dh took it out, since we couldn't afford a new dishwasher so soon. Nor, did I think it was worth the money. It also seems to me, that my counters are cleaner this way. With the dishwasher, I would put the dishes in and not do the other dishes. They would sit there for way too long. If I'm hand washing dishes, I do it one to two times a day and do all the dishes. I know a lot of people have much better luck with theirs, but I cook a lot, and if I have one I stick everything in it that I can, so it runs a couple times a day....See MoreHow Best to use KD @ This Stage
Comments (33)Oh for sure, for sure mock it all up. I have pictures of my husband sanding our vanity drawers underneath a paper arched doorway. We piled boxes everywhere to represent the pantry and base cabinets, kinda like building a fort. And I kept the box our trash can came in for months because it was roughly the same size as an upper. That thing got taped up on nearly every wall in the kitchen. I would also suggest moving your little table to the living room for a bit to see if you hate the idea as much in practice. I would amend the plan comparison list to say that, like the drawers, it's less about the total counter lengths than how it is distributed. Even without the flip-up counter in mine, you get two wide swatches of counter (42" and 36") to work on. Anything less than 30" is not really useful as a work space -- just as a landing zone -- because it is less wide than a human body. In the OP, you have just one true work space that is 30-36" (depending on the size of the dishwasher), and no other swatch of counter is wide enough to work on. I know you don't cook, but even assembling a simple salad requires some space to spread out your ingredients, to chop, and to mix. Right now, you have a big stretch of counter on the peninsula, and you are going to lose that. I am not saying add back the peninsula because I don't think it is good in the space, but do block off all your counter work space except 30-36" for a week and see how if you can live with that plan. For sure, I could not. This is why I suggested running the microwave wall counter through the pantry in the OP and a flat glass cooktop that can double as a counter. I like very much how open and simple and clean the OP layout is, but I dunno that you will have real space to DO anything with the plan as it is. That lack of counter would bug me everyday. It's the thing that has kept your kitchen rolling around in my head, thinking there must be a better solution. The other concerns I had about the OP are really much more minor and the type of trade-offs we all have to decide to live with in our kitchens, but with counter space issue, it started to seem like a long list of things that could be better. Like the long-ish walk between the two sides of the wide galley is un-ideal. The way the sink wall cabinets just cut off randomly on their way to the front door without dying into a wall or other natural stopping pointing, so when you enter the home, your view straight ahead would be of the floating sides of an upper and lower, just hanging out there. The table placement on the end of that cabinet run also seems a bit random and after-thought-y, and the table there would be an obstacle that you have to walk around. The bottom three stairs also stick out kind of randomly and are an obstacle you have to walk around. And then there is so little counter. And all of the work spaces face the wall. Do you go in the basement often? If it is rare that you go down there, could your table and chairs go against that basement door even if it isn't moved? The stairs and table grouped together on that side has a lot of benefits -- the walkway past them stays wider, the stairs aren't sticking out randomly by themselves, and it's a much cleaner, less-obstacled flow from the front to the back of the house. Maybe you could add a wall stub or vertical beam against the wall or something minor architecturally at the end of the sink wall cabinet run, so it is dying into something and the ungrounded ends are not what greets you at the front door. In my layout, the trade-offs are the extra built-in storage means the space will feel a bit smaller (although I hope not too badly -- I kept the walkways wide and the windows big, and things will be neater and less cluttered with more storage), you won't have seating in the kitchen, and the cooktop venting will not be ideal. I'd make sure the window above the cooktop opens and get a downdraft cooktop and call it good enough. I wouldn't hang a range hood. I know you'd prefer seeing the window to seeing the hood, and your cooking habits barely need venting. That is an exterior wall -- if your future buyer needs a more serious range hood solution, it is easy enough to add. Perhaps you could have to help keep things from feeling closed in. A mirror would be useful too for when you are putting on your coat and hat and stuff on your way out, and it would bounce light around. There is no helping the kitchen seating issue. I'd just try moving the table to the living room for a week or two and make sure that is a deal breaker for you. Between the two layouts, it seems a choice between function and feel. Function in the kitchen vs. how the kitchen makes the rest of the apartment feel. It's not that one functions while making everything else in the apartment feel horrible and one doesn't function but makes everything else feel like a luxury palace. But each plan is slightly weighted in one direction. You'd just have to decide what your top priority is and what you'd rather compromise on. As a side note, I am surprised you wouldn't use the hinged counter. I thought you would particularly enjoy working or sitting at a big counter with a view of the garden. You'd asked for seating with a view initially. Like on a cold day, flip up the counter, heat up some soup, stirring while looking at the garden, and then sit there to eat it looking out at the garden. Seemed nice. Then you just flip the counter down when you are done. As a second side note, you'd be committing yourself to a long time without a kitchen, but if you absolutely can't make up your mind, you might gut your kitchen now so you can really mock up these layouts up in the space you have and get a real feel for them. This post was edited by Jillius on Mon, Jan 5, 15 at 16:42...See MoreThe Galley, Koher Vault, Stages, Poise etc.
Comments (14)palimpsest- I don't know how to send you a question based on an older post so I am going to write it here. I am new to discussions so forgive me if this is bad etiquette. You had posted a design dilemma about transom height. I have a similar situation for my exterior doors. 10' ceilings with some doors that go up to 8'-2" and some 6'8" doors with transoms. I can still increase the height of the single doors to 8'-10" (the architect originally specified this); this seemed pricey and really tall but you get the higher transom. Anyway, I lowered the doors so now the transoms over the 6'-8" doors are only 16". How did your transoms turn out in your design? Thank you very much!! We haven't framed yet so some wiggle room here- except I am sure I'm driving the window rep crazy!!...See More
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reesepbuttercup SLC, Utah 6b
5 years agoI have a 36” Kohler riverby and I find it large enough to do most of what you are looking for. My sink is on the kitchen wall and not island, so while I could do the prep there I tend not to just because I prefer to look out into my living room as I prep. I also tend to have dishes in the sink at times and the offset drains allows me to just push all of that over and work around it If need be. I would not do a divided sink, I hate divided sinks with a passion. I love being able to wash large pots and pans and whatever else without dealing with a darn divider.
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