What are your priorities and must-have features? When you say "dual", what do you mean? Do you want gas or induction? What kind of hood do you have? Do you live in a part of the country that requires a make up air system? So you just need multiple burners, or do you need a griddle, grill, flat top, ...? Do you regularly stir fry and would you benefit from using a wok? What kind of cookware do you already own? Have you considered getting a combination steam oven? How many ovens do you need? Would you prefer these to be wall ovens or in-range ovens? Is this part of a bigger remodel or are you just changing out an existing appliance without changing cabinets?

Before you plan too much on Wolf, search "blue chipping" on the appliance forum. Any of their electric ovens are affected. It has been a problem on this forum for 10 years. Even the new M series oven has had it. Their all gas does not have the blue interior.

By dual, I mean, gas range, and electric oven.

HVAC will take care of the exhaust, as for the hood, I really like a Thermador one. We will place the largest exhaust/vent that does not require make up air (8" max, local code).

Cookware: we have it all, and all kind of appliances (hubby is the cook, here) but we only cook 3 or 4 times a week. We just need the one oven (with the range), and we have a great Breville convection oven that we use often for quick meals. We do not want a steam oven.

It would be great to have a range with a grill/griddle (removable, better).

Well, just realized we do not have it all, I need a large wok lol, I love stir fry but we only do stir fry max once a month, we are only 2 persons.

This is a new construction, new cabinets, it has to be 36" wide, that is the space that I have. I do not want oven towers.

Thank you so much, M

Wekick, thank you,

I will read about it, and the Wolf is not set in stone, is just a possibility but I rather save 3K and find something good, that is the purpose of this thread.

I tend to agree. If you want gas, then it is really hard to beat the Bluestar and it's open burners (not a big fan of their closed burners). If you don't want gas, then induction would be the way to go, but I don't really have any recommendations.

I personally, have only good things to say about Bluestar's oven. But cookncarpenter is right that it does take a good while to preheat (on the order of 20min).

If money wasn't a concern, then I'd look at a range top (not cook top!) and a wall oven. But that is generally more expensive than getting an all-in-one range.

Combination steam ovens are amazing tools. But they also cost a good chunk of money, and they don't come in the same size as a full 30+" oven. Having said that, Miele's CSOs are rather spacious. Most people rarely need more.

Removable grill/griddle are available in the Bluestar Platinum series. But the downside is that removable griddles are usually not thermostatically controlled. If you want a thermostatic griddle, than the cheaper Bluestar RNB is preferable. Many people in this forum believe the the Platinum isn't actually an upgrade from the RNB. It also comes with an "unusual" oven design.

RE Bluestar, I heard is an amazing cooking machine.

I am not sure about the look.

Thank you

Any suggestions?

If you are doing gas then you will absolutely need a hood with enough CFM to require MUA.

I personally like the looks of my Bluestar range. But I don't think it's really distinctly different from any of the other pro style ranges. They all look very much the same,

If you want a distinct look, Bluestar does have their precious metal series and they do offer to paint their stoves. Looks absolutely amazing, but too expensive for me

If you are doing gas then you will absolutely need a hood with enough CFM to require MUA.

No I will not. I am working with the most reputable company in central IL and the best HVAC local guy. I have known him since 2002 when he worked in the first house I built.

I am also looking for a 36” and looking forward to the comments here!

I was looking at the Verona because it’s at such a lower price point, and I think it’s good looking, but based on reviews here and elsewhere I feel like it would not last. Ive also been looking at five star and capital.

Martha..dd has the all gas 36” Wolf. Her hubby does all of the cooking.

It is a beautiful machine and he is a good cook. No blue interior and the range was cheaper than the dual fuel. I will send you a pic. Sorry I haven’t gotten you any more pics of our build. I will have you come soon if you can

just so burnt out....arghhh.

Sounds like you are making good progress. Awesome.

Capeholly,

I have been looking at the Bertazzoni. they look amazing, but for some reason, they have mixed reviews on Houzz. It is Italian design (Italians are one of the best, in my opinion) and I just find hard to believe that they are not good. They have excellent reviews on other sites.

ILoveRed,

If all gas is a bit cheaper than dual, I am interested :)

What range are you using? 48"? Bob does not care of the cost of the range (I am the realistic person here)

I can't wait to see your home! I will text you to coordinate best date to visit.

Hang on in there, you are almost done with your beautiful home.

Yes, we are making progress, lot was staked (inspected and approved) and erosion control is in place. Breaking ground anytime, now.

Naf_Naf, I'm also looking at Bertazzoni (steam oven). A local high end appliance store highly recommends it. Please post a follow up what you ended up choosing. I'm going with a 36" BS as the main oven.

36” Wolf rangetop with m series wolf oven and combi oven. I may not use self clean feature. Haven’t decided. I’m limited to Wolf because of local service. No one here to service other brands.

besides that I had a 48” Wolf dual fuel range for almost 15 years. I loved it and it was flawless. Looked brand new the day we sold the house. Just don’t need that much equipment with 2 kids gone. Skipping built in griddle. Wasn’t impressed.

bought sil a griddle that fits over 2 burners and he loves it. All clad..nice.

appliances not installed yet. Everything going at a snails pace....

so frustrating...

seriously you can’t go wrong with Wolf and sz

Ps Martha...not doing range because I don’t want to bend over so much. Look at the Thermador grand pro if you don’t mind bending over and you want to go over budget. Beautiful beast.

I'll add another vote for the Bluestar. Absolutely love mine, even though my husband still complains that I spent that much on a stove and it doesn't even have a clock! lol I put a danged clock on the wall in the kitchen and said there you go, a clock.

I haven't seriously considered the Bertazzoni because some of the burners are just too wimpy for me. I like a little more power.

Usually all-gas ranges are cheaper than dual fuel. Verona is the only exception to this I've seen.