Yes, I have heard that bermuda control is tough. Late last summer/early last fall, I sprayed Round Up on the bermuda invaded areas and replanted fescue. I have noticed bermuda coming up again though through my new fescue. This was my first application of the bermuda control. I plan to put it down every month for this growing season and see how it does. I have heard about Ornamec but not sure if I want to mess with that stuff. Maybe if the Bayer doesn't work, I'll try the Ornamec. So you think it will be ok to spray the general purpose Bayer Lawn Weed Killer now?

After 7 apps of roundup last summer I have just discovered some bermuda in my back yard. Makes me want to scream. I like things that are easy to grow but I don't like growing plants that I don't have the power to kill either. And TeeDub mentioned the roots can be 20 feet deep. Well on the bermuda sod I tried to take out last summer it was only 2 years old and the roots only went down about a foot which I learned from digging holes for the fence and even still it is immortal. We really shouldn't be planting this stuff if we have no sure fire way to get rid of it. There are two types of bermuda problems. There's encroachment from neighboring lawns which can be a real problem if you don't continually maintain a border of dead grass with roundup and possibly the turflon ester or one of those. Then there's common bermuda spreading by seed similar to how other lawn weeds would come about. The seeds are incredibly small and wouldn't take much to be carried a considerable distance by wind or water. In this case you're dealing with individial little grass plants that may be difficult to spot until it's too late. Or it may just come up everywhere.

Jim it is confusing. For Turflon Ester the rate for Bermuda grass control is 3/4 of an ounce for 1000/ft2. Which equals 1-Tablespoon plus 1-1/2 teaspoons per 1000/ft2. You are going to have to just eaperiment by filling your tank with 1-gallon of water and determine how much ground it will cover. If you get a full 1000/ft2 per gallon, then you know what to do. If it takes 2-gallons, then adjust. Hope that makes since and helps.

I'm in northern Virginia, and it's mostly tall fescue (I'm in the process of bringing it back from many years of neglect by former owners). Re: the climbing over over...there wouldn't really be anything to climb over - the plates would be fully underground. And as I said, the above ground spread could be treated with herbicide, and the plates would be to stop underground spread. Again, I'm only half serious about this. The stuff is so tough to defeat by normal methods, I was just kinda thinking out loud about what it would take.