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Rohl kitchen faucet? California Faucets kitchen faucet instead?

6 years ago

I would like a pull-down single handle kitchen faucet. Do you like Rohl kitchen faucets? Looking at the 1983 (classic) and Michael Berman collections. If not great, what would be a good alternative? Looking at a polished nickel, or better yet, a polished/satin brass. How is California Faucets? Looking at the Davoli model with a white porcelain handle likely in satin brass. Which would you pick? Why? (I also looked at Waterstone but too expensive.) I look forward to your feedback! Thank you!

Comments (60)

  • 6 years ago
    How about Waterstone in satin brass? Looks pretty expensive unfortunately. Also might like a simpler look but still somewhat traditional/transitional (don’t like stick handles however).
  • 6 years ago

    We have California Faucets in polished nickel in our bathrooms and they are terrific. No issues with spots, corrosion, etc. Plus they just feel like quality.

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  • 6 years ago
    Good to know polished nickel ok at least in bathrooms. So maybe satin brass better for kitchen faucet?
  • 6 years ago
    How about Moen’s Arbor faucet in stainless with motion sensor? Anyone know whether that is good? Thanks!
  • 4 years ago

    We put Rohl in our last home about eight years ago in oil rubbed bronze and the finish flecked off, it took forever for them to come to my house to see for themselves then weeks for the new ones to arrive. And six months later we had the same problem. They were a pain to work with. We are putting California Faucets in our new home; hopefully, they will be better.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    I install a lot of faucets. The Rohl is one of the least impressive.

  • 4 years ago

    Wow guys - the sale guys sold me on ROHL kitchen faucets - Looking at the LUX. and Modern LUX for our modern home.

    https://houseofrohl.com/lux-pulldown-kitchen-faucet-polished-chrome-with-metal-lever-handle-r7515lmapc-2/

    https://houseofrohl.com/lux-side-lever-stainless-steel-pulldown-kitchen-faucet-stainless-steel-with-metal-lever-handle-r7520ss/


    His reasoning -


    He said they are in Irvine California so local in case you need any parts unlike Hansgrohe that take a long time for parts. Bathrooms people can wait for Hansgrohe parts but Kitchen you need it right away.


    He said the spray part of the faucet is a good size to feel in your hand instead of a tiny spray part of other faucets.


    Any input on either of the above faucets. Anyone know how lasting they are quality wise.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Search the Houzz archives for the most recent Rohl reviews for your answer. Rohl used to make a reliable quality, and their products are still beautiful and visually impressive, but quality, particularly of the faucets, has declined in recent years. You would probably need replacement parts on a Rohl sooner than you would a Hansgrohe. Have you shopped Brizo? Great company, quality and design. I just bought a Brizo articulating faucet for my own kitchen after extensive research.

  • 4 years ago

    Tried to search and the couldn't find a whole lot - will look again Thanks.


    The others I'm considering were the Hansgrohe Focus and one more is the Grohe Lady Lux - but it was too much to hold in my hand and it didn't have an aerator.


    Looked at Brizzo - no space for the articulating design since the sink is against a wall. Din't like the knurled look due to cleaning in the crevices - so didn't look further.

  • 4 years ago

    Brizo's articulating faucets come in a variety of styles; only the Litze has a knurled handle. If you need a compact faucet, you should look at In2Aqua. If you're not finding the recent reviews of Rohl here at Houzz, there are plenty of other places to look. Here's a few from Amazon. You can also check the Build website and others that carry Rohl. There are plenty of issues that have come up with these faucets in recent years, so much that it's not a brand that comes with high recommendations for anyone who asks, as you have, for input. Grohe has experienced a decline in quality, as well, in recent years. Delta has some good quality offerings, but if a compact faucet is on your agenda, In2Aqua has a limited number of styles with very high quality.

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you @Aglitter. The space isn't compact - right behind the sink is a wall - so just the standard sink-backsplash combo.


    Yes I heard that about Grohe recently. Brizzo or Delta (the sales guy said Delta is ok I guess and Brizzo is same innards as Delta so...just higher price). Rohl the guy said he installed in his house last year and so....he likes it (he is not pushing it though)


    I'm down to just Hansgrohe Focus!! :). Will go back and see what my options are now.



  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Looked at California Faucet: https://www.calfaucets.com/kitchen/series/corsano (K51-100-XX)


    Of Course the guy still says Rohl is good too and showed me another Rohl in addition to the LUX an modern LUX) The Rohl he showed was U4534 Perrin&Rowe Armstrong (although I don't need or care for touchless - one more thing to break down!) : https://houseofrohl.com/armstrong-pulldown-touchless-kitchen-faucet-polished-chrome-with-metal-lever-handle-u-4534ht-apc-2/


    Brizzo he only has the knurly ones - so went online to see the Solna or the Venuto (reviwes on amazon aren't great thouigh:

    https://www.brizo.com/kitchen/product/63070LF-PC

    https://www.brizo.com/kitchen/product/63020LF-PC


    So any thoughts on the four options above? Thanks so much for taking the time to be my sounding board!!

  • 4 years ago

    Four years ago I put Rohl faucets and fixtures in our kitchen and master bath in the bright polished brass color. The kitchen sink had the bridge faucet and coordinating one for the prep sink. It took a little while to get used to the brightness of the brass but the fixtures were large scaled and beautiful. However, before the first year was up the "brass" started to wear off on the handles of the sink faucet, the sprayer and in the bathroom. What!! Not solid brass?? Maybe because I used a lot of lemons the acid on my fingers removed the brass coating. My salesperson told me I had two years, I believe it was, to write to Rohl and send photos. Pretty much the same story from Rohl. No lifetime warranty?? I never got around to doing anything about it. Our house was a colonial reproduction and the "aged" brass didn't detract too much from the overall look of the kitchen. But the metal underneath sure didn't seem like brass. The kitchen sprayer and the showerheads (double showerheads) seemed to lose spray power over time and the sprayer would have spray squirting off to the side but there was no way to replace the plastic cartridge in the sprayer. Well, I did scrub it with vinegar and baking soda and that helped.


    Our powder room had a lovely looking fixture from Newport Brass in a sort of French gold color. The faucet arm was slightly crooked and the water came out crooked as well. The plumber was not able to correct it.


    For the money, I would not recommend either brand, at least not in those finishes. I'm sure there are some beautifully functioning products from both companies but I don't want to take the chance in my current build project. Maybe it's best to stick with chrome or stainless? Oh, and thanks for the heads up to the reviewer who said polished nickel wasn't a good idea in the kitchen. Was looking at the Delta in the polished gold finish as mentioned above. Half the price of Rohl or NB.

  • 4 years ago

    We are going to do chrome or stainless steel.


    So if Rohl does not stand by it's Life time warranty then I guess I have to go with California Faucets


    https://www.calfaucets.com/kitchen/series/corsano (K51-100-XX) - This is what I'm thinking of using in the kitchen and the corresponding a bar prep sink faucet


    Hope they are a good company and stand by their product.

  • 4 years ago

    Just looked at their website and they are all great looking faucets. I saw that there is a lifetime warranty for chrome and for faucet malfunctions. You should be covered. Customer service can be everything if you do have a problem. Good luck!

  • 4 years ago

    @paddykk I wrote a reply several days ago that didn't post for some reason. I wanted to say that some of the Brizo articulating faucets got poor reviews due to a mechanical problem in the articulating joints. That's been fixed. Any new faucet you get that isn't old stock from a warehouse sitting around for a long time will be perfect.

    California Faucets uses electroplating for most of its finishes. That doesn't last as long as the PVD that Brizo does on stainless and several other of its finishes notated as "Brilliance." Some people have had poor experiences trying to get warranty service from California Faucets. If you go with a natural finish like unlacquered brass it won't matter, but I wouldn't choose an electroplated finish over a PVD one for anything, not in a working kitchen. The toughness and durability has no comparison between the two.

    Brizo and Delta have a number of styles that are PVD finishes. In2Aqua's stainless steel finishes are PVD and their chrome finishes are electroplated. That's the same with Brizo, something about chrome that it's hard to PVD, though it can be done.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Wow @Aglitter - Thank you. Your message has new vocabulary for me to grasp first :) Will have to google what PVD is.


    We are thinking of getting either chrome or stainless steel finish whatever the brand is.


    So I gather from your post that chrome is electroplated. Stainless steel is a natural finish, correct?


    Brizo the only two I liked are the Venuto and Solano (both had bad reviews online). I might consider Odin but those are the only ones I liked on Brizo. I don't need touch free technology.


    So now I'm down to Stainless steel in California Faucet and Brizo. (right?)


    Thank you for all the "education" I got in faucets!!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    @paddykk This page is essential reading to understanding faucet finishes, by StarCraft Custom Builders: http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/sources.faucets1e.htm

    Most faucets are made of brass and then covered with some type of coating which is how Delta, Brizo, and California Faucets are made. Very few faucets are actually made totally out of stainless steel, usually higher-end faucets that are affordable only for a luxury budget. These would be faucets such as from MGS and a few other brands. A totally stainless steel faucet is probably more than you want to pay, easily in the thousands of dollars USD per faucet. Stainless steel coatings can be electroplated, too. I don't know why some of the higher-end companies like In2Aqua and Brizo still electroplate their chrome finishes but PVD their stainless steel and a few other finishes, but they do. For a faucet if you want durability, you can go with either a PVD stainless steel or a solid stainless steel faucet like MGS. The chrome that is electroplated will still be fairly durable, but not like PVD. The key to the Brizo PVD finishes is that they add the descriptor "Brilliance" to them. So, it's "Brilliance Stainless" for the PVD stainless steel.

    California Faucets is a great resource for someone who is doing an unusual color finish for the metals because they have so many different finishes that they offer. If you'll do some reading and research, however, both here at Houzz and on any place where you can find reviews of the company online, you'll see that plenty of consumers have had difficulties with some of the California Faucet electroplated finishes flaking or rubbing off prematurely. Then, there have also been complaints of difficulty with warranty service when trying to call in to the company itself. When you are spending a lot of money on a faucet and, in fact, an entire kitchen remodel, the last thing you need are quality issues. I researched many different brands and settled on either In2Aqua or Brizo/Delta as my top choices for a variety of reasons. The Brizo Venuto and Solna faucets are very similar to the In2Aqua faucet styles unless you are talking about the Solna articulated faucet. Once again, there have been poor reviews of the articulating joints failing, but that's been fixed with Brizo. Any of the newer faucets will ship with solidly-built joints meant to last with a lifetime warranty.

    Please visit that link I gave you above, and while you are there, you can check out all of @StarCraft Custom Builders reviews of the individual faucet brands on the market. I spent a lot of time with their material and auxiliary research and was very confident in my choice of Brizo in the PVD "Brilliance Stainless" by the end of my research. In2Aqua was a very close runner-up, but their retractable hoses are a bit noisy due to high-grade metal construction (you can lubricate them if desired with silicone-based lubricants), and the faucets are just standard sized, not oversized, and I had a large sink and wanted a faucet with a far reach, so the Brizo articulated faucet was the perfect thing for my setup.

  • 4 years ago

    Thank you. I will not be buying articulating faucet as there is a wall behind my sink and my sink will only be 30 or 32 inches max. So Solna/Venuto/Odin from Brizzo that I'm considering will not be articulating. I do not want to spend thousands of dollars for luxury brands.


    Will read StarCraft and decide. Thank you for your time you spent explaining everything.

  • 4 years ago

    Have you not considered In2Aqua? It's a German brand of faucet, and every single component in those faucets are among the highest quality offered on the market today. One kitchen faucet will set you back around $600, but they do have lifetime warranties. They are good for small spaces since they are not oversized. All of their stainless steel finishes are PVD. Here's a thread with a lot more information about them including a dealer from whom you can buy if there's not one in your area: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4847102/in2aqua-kitchen-faucet-vs-brizo-rubinet-california-faucets#n=51

    For your reference, I am copying again the dealers that would do business with you remotely for ordering In2Aqua in the USA:

    Architectural Hardware Designs, 9450 N May Avenue, Oklahoma City, OK 73120, phone 405-607-0420, info@ahdok.com -- the salesperson who helped me was Robert.

    @Aurora Plumbing and Electric Supply in Seattle, Washington, showroom staff phone: 206-364-1140.

  • 4 years ago

    Quite a read!


    Looks like California Faucets have an "Ultra Stainless Steel" and "Satin Chrome" finishes which use the PVD method. Not sure how often the StarCraft website is updated but they rate the customer service/warranty service/post sale service highly too although they say it was hard to find the warranty info on their site!!.


    Delta and Moen are a good bet mostly. Since Brizo is made by Delta it is a good bet too I presume - but both Briza and California Faucets are "Assembled in USA" not "Made in USA" like Delta and Moen etc. Actually not all models from these companies are "Made in USA". So you have to dig deeper and go on a model-by-model basis .


    Maybe I will either go with Delta, Brizo or California Faucets and pick the PVD finish. Then I have to check each model to see where it is made or assembled!!


    By the way most all have plastic button for the spray feature and some of the pull downs are plastic (some up the game by putting it in a metal sleeve and making it feel more solid!)


    Picking a faucet shouldn't be this hard!! In fact almost every item for a home rebuild is SOOO hard to pick!!! Puts you in a "decision paralysis" state!!!

  • 4 years ago

    I didn't look at In2Aqua - 1. didn't know about it. 2. didn't want to add another good option 3. space wise we are ok 4. because the vendor I'm buying most of our stuff for the new build does not have this brand - I'm sure I can buy just In2Aqua separately if I want - not a big deal but figured I should stick with the other good brands like Delta/Brizo/California Faucets - so my husband doesn't kill me while I take this long to pick a faucet!!


    Knowing me - I might include in2Aqua into the mix. Ha Ha - especially when you make it so easy with all the links you provided!!!



  • 4 years ago

    Ok - you got me!! I'm adding In2Aqua to the mix - although the options are very few!! I will be visiting a place in California that sells these - so hopefully I can touch and fell it and see if I like it. That's how I added Rohl and California Faucets to my list!!

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The In2Aqua options are limited, but what they do, they do well. The company was founded by a man who had previously worked for high-end faucet maker KWC, and the designs are very similar. The materials used, the type of cartrtidge, and everything about In2Aqua is as high quality as you'll find on the market for very good pricing considering the quality. Most dealers discount the MSRP so you aren't paying what you will see on the official website.

    I just checked, and sure enough California Faucets indeed has a selection of PVD finishes. Any of those should be very durable for you. My expectation is that they'll be double or more the price of faucets with their regular finishes given that it is a smaller manufacturer with made-to-order components. Brizo and In2Aqua have very competitive pricing for PVD finishes.

    There's more to faucet companies than just the name "Delta" or "Moen." Moen has good quality control, but Delta/Brizo overall has a higher level of research and development for things like the Diamond Seal Technology that helps cartridges last longer without leaking. Whether made or not in the USA or Canada can be misleading. Some of the finest faucets in the world are made elsewhere than North America.

    In2Aqua's pull-down faucet models all have metal heads. Brizo's faucet heads for pull-downs and articulating faucets are made of a metal-type coating, so not plastic exactly. The idea is that plastic is less likely to heat up with hot water temperatures and burn your hand.

    Picking a faucet is actually one of the most difficult decisions of a kitchen remodel. I researched faucet companies and individual faucet styles off and on for over a year. Many other people including posters from the old GardenWeb era of the forum archives here at Houzz called the faucet decision one of their most difficult of the entire kitchen remodel.

  • 4 years ago

    Yes I read all about the story on the full review page on the StarCraft website. Very interesting. Will let you know tomorrow.


    I don't feel too conflicted because - I found that California faucet also has PVD options and the website rates it well. Just need to take a look at Brizo, Delta and California Faucets once again after I see in2Aqua and do a Price/Value comparison (along with how it feels in my hand and how it operates)


    Which in2Aqua faucet do you have?

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The In2Aqua kitchen faucet I was considering was one of the pull-down models in stainless steel. Note that the In2Aqua pull-outs with the long wands now have heads made of plastic. The pull-down In2Aqua kitchen faucets are still all made of metal including the head, which is rare among faucet manufacturers today. As mentioned earlier, I settled on a Brizo instead to get a longer reach for big sink and also a quieter motion with the articulating style.

  • 4 years ago

    Call Faucets has had PVD options for a long time. The bathroom faucets I mentioned above are about 13 years old, ORB with PVD, and they have held up great. The only finish problem I have had was when I got hair dye on the sink flange. I don't remember the pricing, but I'm quite sure it wasn't double the cost the non-PVD faucets.

  • 4 years ago

    Yup I totally get the "hair dye" problem. Since it is a kitchen faucet I hope to never do that there :)

    I will take a look once again and make a choice. Will update the thread to get your Y/N votes!!


    Thanks you all so much.

  • 4 years ago

    As a testament to the power of PVD, this is my 13yo faucet. ORB is a notoriously tricky finish, and it is in great shape bc of the PVD (yes, the crevices are a little grody).


  • 4 years ago

    I would hope California Faucet's PVD charge isn't exorbitant. Water Street Brass charges $3,000 USD--yes, three-thousand dollars--as a setup cost for PVD custom finishes for hardware. That was more than triple the base cost of my order from them, so I decided on electroplated chrome. Cabinetry hardware doesn't undergo as much use as a faucet, so I am hoping the finish will hold up well long-term.

  • 4 years ago

    Wow! That's quite a lot! I wish I could remember what we paid in comparison to the base price.

  • 4 years ago

    Wow $3000!! Oh my. Pay a little more and I can buy the high end MGS faucet or something for that price!!

  • 4 years ago

    Hopefully California Faucets has some pre-done PVD pieces and doesn't have to set up for each custom job like Water Street Brass. Knowing what I do about PVD vs. electroplating, obviously I would have chosen PVD had it been more affordable for my cabinetry hardware. I think I paid around $600 USD apiece for my Brizo faucets in PVD from the online dealer Quality Bath during a sale. Brizo mass manufactures its faucets which brings the PVD cost down.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The California Faucets corsano in PVD ultra stainless steel finish is $997 vs the non-PVD chrome finish is about $738 - There is a PVD-Satin Chrome too - I think that was $1180 or so


    In2aqua was a little looking tiny for the space - presence wise California Faucet or Rohl had a presence (ofcourse not considering ROHL anymore)

  • 4 years ago

    I'm also looking for a new faucet for my kitchen because the old one is in a bad condition. I want a good quality faucet with a spray head. Now I need to choose between Rohl, Kohler, and California faucets. I asked my friends, searched for info about brands, and stopped on Rohl and Kohler. Since both of them are pretty expensive, I don't want to waste money on something bad. Not sure yet, but I think I will choose Kohler because it has more positive reactions.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Get the Kohler please.

  • 4 years ago

    We were set on Kohler for our master bathroom...loved Rohl but had heard about quality issues. Then we went to a small local plumbing fixture shop who had some different lines. They sold us on THG Paris. The amazing thing was that the cost was less than the Kohler quotes we had received from other places, and for a much better product. (IMO) Not a huge amount less, but enough. Anyway, fast forward to when the faucets arrived, they were gorgeous and extremely heavy. We love them.

  • 4 years ago

    I have Rohl in my kitchen 2 years now with no problems.

  • 4 years ago

    I have Rohl in my master bath and guest bath. I believe it’s a quality piece of plumbing, but the finish (polished nickel) gets tarnished SUPER easily and it’s a pain to keep it looking nice. I have polished nickel in another bathroom (Kohler) and the kitchen (Waterstone), and the finish on those faucets has fared much better.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    For anyone following this thread and doing their own research on faucets, according to StarCraft Custom Builders' review, THG is a brand that does not meet the EPCA United States certification regulations for faucets, meaning that the THG brand cannot legally be sold in the United States at least up until the time that StarCraft updated its review of the brand on April 6, 2018. Sales to Canada are not affected. THG faucets carry only a up to 5-year warranty on mechanics (except for a lifetime warranty on the cartridge) and anywhere between no warranty on the finish up to 5 years on the finish, depending on the coating type. Compare this to limited lifetime parts and finish warranties from companies like Delta, Brizo, and Kohler.

  • 3 years ago

    I ended up here, because I'm redoing my kitchen and trying to make a decision about the faucet. I have various faucets throughout my house from Kohler, Moen, Restoration Hardware, and Newport Brass. I think the Restoration Hardware fixtures are made by Newport Brass, because we had to call them when we needed to replace. We've had them from 10-12 years, so I don't know the styles or even if they are made. Almost all are polished nickel, and the Kohler and Moen are always spotless, laundry room and bathroom, respectively. I'm not crazy about the pull down sprayer on the Kohler. The Moen Showcase (do they still make this line?) is in the bathroom, and I love it so much, because I can just pour water over it and it will dry spotless. It's amazing. It is wall mount, and I wish I had it in every bathroom. Because of my success with Moen, when I needed a faucet for my kitchen, I bought an inexpensive (relative to all the other faucets I have) Moen at Home Depot. It is the only non polished nickel faucet I have. It is stainless steel, still looks brand new (10 years+), and the pull down sprayer works wonderfully. Unfortunately, I'd never buy fixtures from Restoration Hardware again. They spot like crazy. The Newport Brass are slightly better, but they also spot. I'm looking at Kohler and Moen for my new kitchen, but the choices are limited in polished nickel. Now I'll look at California Faucets, too, but I'll skip Rohl, since someone mentioned the polished nickel spots so much.

  • 3 years ago

    Brizo has PVD finishes I believe in nickel, close to the most durable type of finish you can get in faucets today. Anything that has "Brilliance" in the color name from Brizo is PVD. I went with a Brizo "Brilliance Stainless" articulating faucet for my kitchen and am thrilled with the design and functionality.

  • 3 years ago

    This’s my California Faucet after 2 years, it lost mostly of the polish Chrome. My shower is leaking. They say lifetime warranty on the finish, but costumer service said, they’re not going to replace the handle. I’m 57 yers old, I owned many bathrooms , for the first time I’m handling with such poor quality. You just don’t expect that from a 800$ faucet.

  • 2 years ago

    @paddykk what did you end up getting for your kitchen faucet? I am looking at California Faucet Corsano in stainless steel. Did you get that? Happy?

  • 2 years ago

    Due to supply chain issues with COVID - just oucked the Hansgrohe Talis for tye kitchen. It’s wirking great!!! For the price of the California Faucet PVD stainless steel - even if something goes wrong I can buy multiple of these!! But its working out great.

  • last year
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    If you want a stainless steel pull down kitchen faucet with built in water filtering I have had this one in our kitchen for 4 years. But if you are in California not drought compatible.

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  • last year

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  • last year

    We purchased a Rohl Kitchen faucet. It was expensive but it looked great and we thought we were buying a quality product. We were wrong! Worst yet is customer no-service! They ghost you by refusing to ansewer your emails untill you are forced to threaten them with bad reviews or a attorney. (and here we are). Then they string you along. When you call, they will not allow you to talk to the person that handles your problem (they will get back to you?). So we paid a lot of money for a throw away product. Our other faucets are over 10 years old. The Rohl had problems in less than 1 year. Terrible company!

  • last year

    I've had Brizo kitchen faucets for four years now without a single problem; highly recommend.