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K Rod Zone 8
4 years ago
Hello my name is Takeisha Saunders and i just received my first gallon pot roses The Impressionist and Golden Celebration. I live in DALLAS TX. I planted them Monday in plastic half barrel containers in my backyard near my raised beds. I used the starter kit amendments (bone meal, mint compost, manure, and coffee grounds) to my potting soil mix added the fish emulsion and watered them really well. We have one in the front already that seems to be doing well although i am not sure what kind it is. They get mostly morning and early afternoon sun. I am wondering since we have some 100 degree days coming up if they should get some afternoon shade since they are so young? Or is full Texas summer sun ok? We have spots in the yard near the house that are shaded starting at about 230-300pm. Do i just sit back and wait for them to do their thing and just water every few days? Is there anything i should be looking out for and how often should i fertilize/water? Thank you I’m really excited about them and want to get it right.

Comments (58)

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    OMG I’m already addicted. I can’t wait for these to grow so i can buy more!!!! But I’m going to wait just so i know i won’t kill them!!

  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    Hah hah. Join the club. This can be a very expensive habit. I told Mr. Blue Jeans (of Rose Petals Nursery) that I was obsessed. He replied that he is "obsessed on steroids." It happens! In 3 months I went from 3 to 93. Unlike you, I could not wait.

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  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Wow cedemas where did you put all of those plants!!!

  • Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    It is very addictive. I was like you. Buy a few and see if I kill them since I have black thumb instead I end up buying more. Rose fever. My husband looks at me and told me that I am going to fill up all the space. So , now I am being very picky and taking my time.

    Jin

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    I have a wishlist about 15 roses long lol. I have to decide how i want them so there is some order to it. I also need to figure out how to make the live in the ground!!

  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    I have about 20 in pots. The rest are in the ground, either in the front or some in the back. I have them staggered--tall ones in the back and shorter ones in front. At this point I am going to have to remove established plants to make room for more!

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    If you had to pick two or three which are your favorite!!

  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    Two or three might be impossible. I will tell you what I love and for what reason--


    Molineux because of nonstop blooms.

    Tess of the D'ubervilles, same reason.

    Munstead Wood, divine color and fragrance.

    Lady Emma Hamilton, as above.

    La Reine, as above,

    Louis Phillipe, because he is so heatlhy, has great rebloom, smells and looks great, and does not need to be babied. Perfect Florida rose in every way.

    Penelope, because she is so happy.

    Marie Pavie, for health, blooms, and scent.

    Mrs. B R Cant--she is probably the very best tea for my area. Very strong bush, lovely pink blooms, and a raspberry scent.

    Duchesse du Brabant, best smelling tea in my garden.

    Crepuscule, very healthy, very cute apricot/orange blooms.

    Abraham Darby, bloom machine, and lovely fruity scent.


    Five of these are Austins.


    I'll have a different answer in a few weeks.

  • sabalmatt_tejas
    4 years ago

    Takeisha- welcome to the forum! I’m from Dallas, but now live in San Marcos. Like others have wisely said- our brutal sun and high temps will stress the plants until Oct. I’ve had the best luck with young roses in morning sun and keeping them moist during June-Sept

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  • cyndita (west coast zone 9)
    4 years ago

    I agree - afternoon shade would be best for such young plants in the summer heat - the hot sun will stress them. And, off topic, but I love your raised garden bed in the background!

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  • Perma n’ Posies/9A FL
    4 years ago

    Your raised beds are great! If I may make a suggestion, since roses are such hungry plants, build your soil up with as much organic matter as you can. Hot & humid means rapid exhaustion of inputs, but also means the potential for a very healthy soil life. Your roses will love you for it!

    And hey—there are much worse things to be obsessed with in this world! This is such a beautiful, life-giving hobby. :-)

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Thank you. ive been working on those its my first hand at gardening we added two hibiscus, bluebells, daylillies, and a miniature red rose i got for mothers day. the petunas actually are doing very well for it to be so hot. i didnt know until after i planted those they probably should be in the shade but they are doing great. for the rose pots I used premium rose soil packaged from a local dealer here in royse city, i added in rotted manure and the mint compost sold by heirloom. I also added bone meal to the soil when i planted it. i do believe that is what brought in the soil mites gosh they are crazy but i was told to leave them be since they want the manure not the live plants.I was going to wait until the one month mark to add in the banana peels and coffee grounds. I also bought the fish emulsion but was told to wait on that. any other suggestions?

    i just dont want to stress the roses im nervous lol

  • Perma n’ Posies/9A FL
    4 years ago

    You’re doing great! Those mites will break down that manure into food for the roses, so they are good. The kind that can hurt your roses will be on the backs of the leaves & in the crooks of the branches, and you just hose them off.

    I was a bit nervous when I started too, but another gardener friend told me, “remember, these plants WANT to live and thrive; it’s part of their DNA” and I remind myself of that often. You’ve already got great instincts, so you’re going to do just fine! :-)

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  • Perma n’ Posies/9A FL
    4 years ago

    All these organic inputs are fantastic for the soil, and you can cover the top layer of soil with these. I put these kind of things under my mulch, since that helps them break down faster and looks neater. Eggshells are great too!

    Fish emulsion is really good too, but is highest in nitrogen (unless it has seaweed blended in) which makes lots of leaves, so I’d only give them that once a month & at half of the recommended solution.

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  • portlandmysteryrose
    4 years ago

    Hi, Takeisha! Welcome to the forum. Like Sabalmatt, I'm from Dallas but have moved to another area. I first moved to Minneapolis (polar opposite climate), and now I live in Portland, OR, but my sister still lives in Dallas and gads do I know Dallas summers! Everyone has already chimed in with all kinds of great advice, but I wanted to chime in with the golden celebration over your new rose acquisitions. Like others above, I adore GC. JeriJen grows a spectacular one in California, and I grew GC at my last garden here in Portland. It is my absolute favorite yellow David Austin. If you haven't considered companions yet, when your GC is mature enough, think about growing some blue morning glories or a purple clematis on a trellis or fence behind it. A lavender, purple or blue large-flowered clematis could use GC itself as a trellis. A swoon-worthy combo! Carol

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  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    4 years ago

    Welcome to the wonderful world of rose addiction! I recently infected a good friend with this "affliction" - he is buying as fast as he can and we are having a great time talking roses. I didn't notice anyone mentioned The Impressionist - I grew mine from a tiny band - it is now about ready to plant in the ground - the blooms are just beautiful. Know you will love yours. I keep my potted roses in morning sun/afternoon shade. I am in East Texas and it is as hot as where you live. When they are older, next year, they can stand the sun if they are planted in the ground but I like to baby my new roses through that first summer. If you have time, you would enjoy the Tyler Municipal Rose Garden - and Chamblees Rose Nursery is close by! Good luck!

    Judith

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    Funny you should mention that. We are going to Tyler this weekend for that very reason!! Very excited!!
  • Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
    4 years ago

    I am pretty sure there is a nursery there David Austin. I wish I can go there. If I do, I am getting a UHaul truck.

    Jin

  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    4 years ago

    David Austin is indeed there! I always pick up my roses there to save on shipping. No display garden, you have to order first, cant just go in and buy them. You order, tell them when you want to pick up. Another great place is Blue Moon Gardens and Hand Nursery. We are going to Canton [huge trade days monthly] and are going by Chamblees tomorrow! Sweltering hot here....not to hot to shop for roses!

    Judith

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Whaaaaaasatt!!!! OMG

  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    4 years ago

    Oh yes, and they sell roses at Canton! $10 each, healthy, very nice - have gotten St. Tropez, Tropical Lightening, Pretty Lady Rose, Vavoom, lots of great varieties. They are very healthy - in 2 gallon pots. We cant wait!!

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    I thought Canton was the first weekend?? Is it every weekend?
  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    4 years ago

    Canton is first Monday - this time, July 1 comes on Sunday, so its this weekend. There are several plant vendors, 2-3 good rose vendors set up in what's called Dog Alley, where the animals are. I also want more muskovee ducks to add to my pond. We go on Fridays as crowds are not so bad, and selection is good. After we go there, we are hitting Chamblees! Will be a fun day even though we will probably roast.

    Judith

  • Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
    4 years ago

    Okay, now I am getting jealous. Geezs, I wish I was there or near some nurseries like Cedemas. It is always a long drive for me. Shipping helps to save but I would die for DA and Antique roses.

    My savings comes mostly in Fall or near winter. I always look forward to that. That way I can buy more roses.

    Judith, you have to post pics if your place esp the pond with ducks in it :)

    Love that. I hope you get your ducks :)

    Jin



  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    Jin, it is a mixed blessing. Imagine how much more you would be spending if they were close to you.

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    The golden celebration has its first open blooms!!

  • boncrow66
    4 years ago

    You are going to have so much fun in Tyler! If you plan on going to Chamblees rose farm be sure to check out their bargain area, roses for $2.50 up to $5.00. The majority of my roses have been purchased at Chamblees and are healthy roses. Can’t wait to hear all about your trip!

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  • Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Oh, yes pls let us know what you got. I am already turning green...lol.

    Yes, Cedemas, Can you magine how much I spend in shipping ? Can I make a monkey face at you with a wink. I wish we had emoji's. But this is also fine :)

    K, that is so exciting. In time you will get more and more buds. Enjoy your roses :)

    Jin

  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    Jin, I am not sure where you are. But surely you are closer to "A Reverence for Roses" (Hernando, FL) than I am. They are 68 minutes away from me.

    Yes, I hate the cost of shipping. It keeps going up, too, doesn't it?

  • cedemas
    4 years ago

    K Rod, no fair! I've had Golden Celebration for a long time and I'm still waiting for a bloom. Enjoy your trip to see more roses. I wish we had a $2.50 and $5.00 table of roses here. Where I live the best ever sale price is $7 but I have spent much much more than that on individual roses.

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    Look who woke up today!!!
  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    4 years ago

    I too am dying of envy over here, with no rose nursery anywhere near me and not even hours away. I once spent $66 for Jesse Hildreth (with shipping) and the prices mentioned here sound like a wonderful dream. It's just as well, my drought-ridden garden doesn't need more roses, which of course didn't stop me from ordering some (expensive) ones anyway. It's the fault of this forum, I'm too often being "enabled" in buying "just one more".

    K Rod, your roses are obviously enjoying the good life, and I'm glad your efforts are being rewarded. My roses would all love to come live with you. Here they have to make do with soil made up of decomposed granite and a few handfuls of soil mix, shoved into a hole that's probably too small.

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  • BenT (9B Sunset 14)
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    For those who haven’t been, I went to Chamblee’s last year , took pics, and documented my visit here:

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/4979469/a-picture-thread-tyler-texas-chamblees-and-municipal-rose-garden#n=17

    Oh jeez, Judith, a nicely grown out Peach Swirl for just $5.50?! I just bought a bare root one from Edmunds, shipped from Wisconsin in June, and am gently nursing it out of dormancy in the heat of the TX summer! Had I only known I could have driven to Peach Swirl Nirvana. I might just have to make the drive next Saturday, hopefully they’ll have their flatbeds out. The only reason I don’t go more often is I bring back too many great roses, and then, where will they all go?

    You bought live ducks in Canton? That’s cool.

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    We went to Chamblee’s was so awesome also picked up his custom soil. Should have gotten more. It’s half the price of big stores and you can see the difference. I came out with four roses!!! He’s retiring this year i hope someone buys it and keeps it going!!!

  • boncrow66
    4 years ago

    Judith sounds like you had a great trip all around, ducks and roses, how cool! I am sad to hear that sale area is gone, I had heard Mark Chamblees was going to retire and sale but I didn’t know when. I hope I can make a trip that way soon before it closes.

    K rod, that’s great you got soil and roses! Which roses did you buy?

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    Ok so here is what i came away with from Tyler.

    Tropicana $20
    Molineux $20
    Plum Perfect $19
    Broadway my husband calls this the $10 rose because it was unlabeled but mr Chamblee figured it out lol

    And five bags of Mr Chamblee’s soil!!!
  • BenT (9B Sunset 14)
    4 years ago

    Those are some nice big healthy plants, Takeisha.

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  • portlandmysteryrose
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Takeisha, score!!! What a great haul from your trip. As a side note, my grandfather and mother both grew Tropicana, so it is a sentimental rose for me. :-) Bravo for you on purchasing soil! Buying soil and amendments is like investing in plumbing and electrical upgrades for your home. No one can see them, but you know they're there doing their jobs and making your garden more livable. Your Golden Celebration is looking wonderful! Carol

    Editing to add: Dallas not only boasts that wonderful (not) gummy black clay that you've encountered, parts rest on white rock (hence the name of the natural area "White Rock Lake"). If you hit this, know you are not alone. My parents lived in University Terrace not too far from White Rock Lake and my mother gardened on it for 50 years and all went well. Sometimes Mom had to raise things a bit, and sometimes not, but your plants will let you know. Carol

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  • boncrow66
    4 years ago

    Those are huge and healthy looking!

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  • Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
    4 years ago

    Wow, they are huge size and healthy. Well, I am glad both you and Judith had a great trip. Ducks , soil and roses. Wow, what a great week.

    Remember to post them as they deveops.

    Judith, how many ducks did you buy ? I would love to see your pond with ducks swimming in it..lol

    Jin

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  • cedemas
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I put about 20 of the to the left of my front door, about 30 of them in front of the house to the right side of the front door, about 12 of them in the side yard in the back, 2 of them on a trellis right next to the street, 5 of them on the fence, and the rest are in very big pots in a narrow patch of sunlight in the side yard. It's absurd how many I have when you consider the fact that my yard, which is mostly backyard, is mostly deep shade. I posted a pic of my backyard on Jin's "Roses for $7 antiques" thread. But I found places to tuck them in just about everywhere else.

    In about three years there will be roses everywhere in the front and most of them will still be blooming in the winter. I'll be "that crazy rose lady."

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    The Impressionist opened its first baby bloom!!!
  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    4 years ago

    The Impressionist is adorable. I like single and semidouble roses among the fluffy full ones for a change of pace and this one is very pretty with its soft color and ruffled petals. Takeisha, I think in quite a short time you're going to have a very respectable rose garden, and you're already not a newbie with the number of roses you've added and the sophisticated soil mix you're using. It will be fun to see your garden grow.

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  • lavenderlacezone8
    4 years ago

    Welcome Takeisha, and what a wonderful job you are doing already! I just ran across this thread and so enjoyed seeing your progress!

    You've already got a lot of really knowledgeable people helping you here but I can also see that you have great natural instincts. Thanks so much for sharing your fun!

  • hugogurll
    4 years ago

    Sorry to report that's not The Impressionist (very full petaled golden peach pink blend). Could it be The Imposter? But I don't see the freckling in the petal.

  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Phyllissteen I’m sure it’s not an imposter as it was purchased through David Austin but however it is a baby and takes time to develop its mature features. I’m still very happy with it either way

  • alameda/zone 8/East Texas
    4 years ago

    Mine just bloomed, it didn't look like the pictured rose. I don't think David Austin sells this rose [could be wrong], I got mine from Heirloom. You might check Helpmefind.com and look up The Impressionist and see if yours looks anything like the photos there. It is a lovely rose!

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  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    I will definitely have to look into it and find out!!
  • K Rod Zone 8
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    You guys are right they did send me the wrong rose!!
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