Hi All,

I got these two roses a while back and both have turned out to be wonderful. However I never knew their names. The first one is definitely a floribunda. It stays somewhat low to the ground and has somewhat spreading growth. It usually forms 3-5 buds per branch and is a true red in color.

The second is a much taller, more upright plant, perhaps HT in growth, but not in form. It has large globular buds and opened old fashioned blooms. Its very disease resistant and vigorous and grows up to 6 feet tall. It blooms solitary or sometimes in small groups of 2-3 blooms. The blooms last a long time and sometimes can ball in the summer but are usually gorgeous.

I know it looks like Florentina, but its not. I have 3 florentinas and this one is a tad more cherry red than that, and has larger flowers and is stiff, not a climber. Also the leaves are more pale green and shiny. She has large thorns but not closely packed together.

Any suggestions?