Induction burner ...your thoughts? OT maybe?
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I've decided on 4/5 gas burners & 2 induction ones - any recs?
Comments (29)CLKW, you can make your own danged matzah balls! Texas is a big place, so I don't know if this is hundreds of miles away from you, but they had Kenny & Ziggy's in Houston on TV. E-mail me if you need a recipe. I think you really need to research more on the manufacturers' websites. Read through the operating manuals and get to know the appliances before you make a decision. The portable unit Dan linked looks like a a good unit. When I landed here induction wasn't very popular in the U.S. so I wanted to try it and got the cheapest one I could get on Amazon (Mr. Induction). It was enough to convince me. Commercial units like Dan's have different kinds of controllers than home units do. This one has thermostatic control, whereas home units have levels numbered from 1-9 (some with half stops). Cooktek (also commercial) has 1-100. Zoneless, as has been said, is also different, though the controllers are similar. I forgot to answer up topic about the self-import. If you do that, talk to your insurance first about it not being UL listed and get a letter for your file (kept at your agent's office) that says it's okay with the company. Talk to your electrician about wiring. And talk to your local servicemen. I wouldn't go with the De Dietrich. People were self importing these all over the place a couple of years ago, but when things went wrong they had orphan appliances. Instead, if you find an AEG, for instance, that you like, talk to the local Electrolux service and see if they'll take care of you. There likely won't be a warranty, but if you need a fix make sure someone can fix it. And know that the timers won't work right because they use the frequency of the electricity to mark time and they're different here and there. My serviceman said to just make a conversion chart. Re steamers, the in counter is more like a using a bamboo steamer in a wok. The combi-steam oven is an oven which also has steam. Very different. The steam is the same, but the mode of cooking is different. You'd have to ask someone more familiar than I with the in counter steamer, but I'm not sure all leftovers will fit. They'd have to be shaped correctly. Plus, people have said that you can just put a plate of dinner for a straggler in the combi-steam to refresh, which you can't in a counter steamer. It's not a bad appliance--just be aware of what the different ones do and don't do. You can't stack three different brands of ovens three high. I think you're getting a little star struck. Okay, for getting a crisp crust on bread in a normal, electric oven, use a pan of water. For steaming vegetables, use a steamer basket in a pan of water on the stove. I suppose you could use the oven, but getting it right would be hard. You can also use a plastic steamer basket in a microwave, in a corningware pot of water, or a bamboo steamer basket in a wok of water. There are other ways too. In a Gagg combi-steam, put in perforated pan in oven. Oh! You might want to look into the KitchenAid Steam Assist oven. That's a full sized oven with some steam. Not as fancy, not as expensive, but a full sized oven with a trick up its sleeve. I don't understand this sentence: Can I get steam oven results by sticking a pan of water in the combi oven and using microwave and oven to cook my leftovers? Have you tried that? I haven't tried any of it because they're just finishing my kitchen now. The combi- doesn't need a pan of water, so I think there's a typo somewhere. I haven't used the pan of water with leftovers. If it's just for myself, I'm more likely to zap it if I want it hot (and often would rather have cold). If it's for more, I'll redecorate it and put it in the oven. If you want more info on reheating and refreshing with the combi-steam, search on Gizmonike. Re prices, I don't think the Gaggenau convection oven is all that much different from the Miele, especially since you're already at the top of the scale. The Gaggenau combi-steam is more double the currently available Miele steam oven because the latter is steam only. For the same price as the latter, you could get the KA. I don't know much about the KA, but it's an oven with some steam, not a steam appliance. You'd have to find out more, but I don't think you can just put stuff like veg or rice in to steam only. But I don't think you can probably stack it with the Miele either. A lot of it depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it. It's very hard to know when you're not all that used to cooking well. It'll be more fun and easier in your new kitchen, but maybe you should start trying these things now. Put a custard cup or ramkin or whatever you have with water in your oven and see what happens. Steam some stuff on the stove. Etc. Fancy tools make life easier, but everything you do is much easier when you know the basics behind them. In school we had to calculate cube roots and natural logs even though we had calculators and there were tables in the back of the math book. Same with kitchen tools, before you use a food processor, learn to use a knife. Before you use a dough hook, learn to knead. Before you use a steamer, learn to steam on the stove. That way you'll learn what things are supposed to look and feel and taste and sound like, and won't be relying on machines to tell you what to eat....See MoreWould you put in a 2 burner INDUCTION on your island?
Comments (6)I have soapstone and induction....and I agree with a couple of the comments above: Soapstone scratches way more easily than I expected, and mine doesn't sand & oil out like I expected it would. So, I have lots of white scratches and dings that just won't darken up. My kitchen has a distressed/antiqued look in the cabinets, etc. - so it's working okay...but, I was a bit surprised and disappointed at first - just be warned and make sure you are okay with a distressed look. Induction will become your favorite place to cook...it's so responsive and easy to clean. So, I'd definitely add it....and maybe put it in a cabinet space that will hold a future 30" there. As for unloading groceries - I think it will be fine....but, wouldn't promise that one. I'd probably go with one that has a metal trim around it just to protect the edges better. Good luck!...See MoreInduction burner
Comments (8)Thanks for the reminder about the magnet and credit cards, dcarch. I kept it separate! I was at Wal-Mart on Thursday. I had to use one of their magnetic clips, only to find that NOTHING they sold had a magnetic bottom. Our Wal-Mart is being upgraded to a Super Wal-Mart (we must have had one of the few Wal-Marts in the US without a big grocery dept), so we are missing a lot of things. The choice in the pots and pans dept was slim-to-even-slimmer. Checked out the thrift stores today.....nada. There may have been one or two likely's, but they weren't in very nice condition so even if they'd been induction ready, I'd have passed. Off we went to Tar-jay. PAY DIRT! They had THREE fry pans and THREE saucepans that would serve the bill. I can't remember two of the brands, except that one had a name that began with a G. The third was T-Fal, and the wrapper specifically said INDUCTION SAFE. The other two had magnetic bottoms, but nothing was said on the packaging about Induction. We bought the T-Fal. Since I am familiar with T-Fal, I was comfortable with it. T-Fal had replied and said that the Ingenio (that I have for our former RV) is not induction safe or ready. They said that some of their cookware is induction ready, but not all of it is. Another good reason to buy their cookware: they were kind enough to respond to my query by email. That's good customer service! Now to learn to cook with it before we leave on any summer trip. I look for the induction burner, fry pan and saucepan to replace the electric fry pan we carried on our 2012 summer trip. I'm thinking that cleaning the fry pan or sauce pan in a motel room will be a whole lot easier than cleaning a non-immersable electric fry pan! Donna...See MoreUsing induction burners during canning
Comments (6)Thanks for the several useful comments on this. Unfortunately I have been canning so long that I am still using my old-style (40+ years old) aluminum canners that require constant watching and heat adjustment (pressure gauge with hissy/vent models, not really "jiggle" like the modern ones, I misspoke in my first post) during processing to maintain correct pressure throughout the cycle. These are, even with gas, a royal pain and I have been thinking about replacing them. My modern pressure pans that are in effect self-stabilizing as far as pressure -they are true "jigglers" - are much easier to use. The main thing keeping me from replacing all the old pressure canners is financial inertia and reluctance to abandon these huge kettles which still technically work just fine. (I use them not only for pressure but also BWB with the lids off and many, many jars stacked up inside.) I fuss about this every year during the canning season, then, of course, it fades away afterward. I should just bite the bullet, I suppose. My worry about the heat plate set-up is that it would be like trying to run them on an electric coil: not feasible (or at least extremely frustrating and lead to poor quality control) because of the residual heat in the coil (in this case heat plate) itself. And unlike smaller pots there's no moving aside a canner packed with 3 or 4 dozen jars of food to the side to try and temper the heat. Working outside does sound appealing, but I would be a little reluctant to do so because I really like having my kitchen set up for canning with ready access to water, etc. If I set up an indoor canning room in an outbuilding, that would be ideal and I have seen some people with that setup and admired it. I often prep/process batches of food in the evening or at night and working outdoors would draw a lot of flying critters to the lights. I am fiercely obssessive about sanitation during prep so it would stress me out in the open air, I think. I do plan to have an outside exit from my kitchen to a small porch ... I am just now thinking maybe it should be a screened small porch that could be set up for canning during the main rush of the season. I'd have water close at hand in the kitch. Hmmmmmm The timing/safety issue comes to play if it takes takes too long, or too conversely it happens too quickly, to get to pressure. At extremes of either end you have issues of safety and to some degree food quality (very long time to get to pressure). This is one of the reasons that using a regular pressure pan (especially a smaller one) is not advisable for pressure canning. This is slightly OT, but have I read here a method for converting older style canners to more easier use by switching to a different weighted gauge? Maybe I am confusing this with something else? I appreciate the time you have taken to write your comments; it's very helpful to me. Canning, especially pressure canning, is foreign to a lot folks and they haven't got any idea how and why it is different from regular cooking. L...See More- 8 years ago
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