Style question re: Inset doors in same kitchen w/full overlay doors
tdemonti
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Full Overlay Drawer/Door question - am I too picky?
Comments (7)There may be a little play in the door (adjustment) but the drawer fronts are drilled directly in the movable drawer and not adjustable. Luckily, bill hasn't been paid (or received) so we certainly have some leverage. This is making me NUTS....(I'm kinda a freak about symmetry, balance, clean lines, etc....) Never thought I was OCD, but maybe I am?...See MoreInset perimeter cabinets with full overlay island ok? Pictures?
Comments (2)I'm considering doing frameless/fulloverlay on the main kitchen and inset in the breakfast hutch/snack area. I want more storage in the kitchen proper and the hutch to look like a piece of furniture. So, I'm definitely interested in what everyones opinion is on mixing sytles....See MoreSo Many Choices - Door Panels, Frames, Inset or Overlay ???
Comments (3)I'm going to assume that money does not factor into this question as I answer it. The reason being....you didn't mention it :oP And many custom cabinet makers don't charge like cabinet companies (ie my beaded insets were a 19% upcharge). Partial overlay have gone a bit out of style (IMO) you don't see many in new kitchens. You do see a few....but not as many so I'd steer away from those instantly if I were doing your kitchen. Now the question of the full overlay or inset. I'd like to share a few pics of my cabinets and see if I can help there. Not knowing what an Rh door style is LOL I have to guess....but I have a little of everything so pics might help you. First beaded inset doors are a very old style, and you don't often see them with "fancy" (ie lots of detail) doors. Most often they're done with Shaker style doors or slab...fairly simple door styles. They are in my opinion, very classic styles, traditional would also fit, but they're normally very simple doors so that the wood frames and details are shown off with the simple lines (although the majority are actually painted) but it's still about simplicity. Here are mine...they're basically a wide shaker style door with just a tiny bit more detail on the top and bottom trim pieces: (My house is still in progress so there are missing trims, etc....please don't mind the mess): The above are inset, beaded, shaker style doors with glass panels. Again same cabinets, with the lower, which are shaker style doors, inset with beaded edges, and just an fyi on all of my solid doors...they're all reverse raised panel. Inset drawers with glass are in the above. Another choice you have to deal with is your drawer style. I like a mix (the above are five panel...with the glass) and I also have slab. My panels are so big that on a basic inset drawer, you'd just have an eyebrow of flat wood, so I prefered the look of slab: This cabinet in the dining room is a full overlay. It is MISSING the trim which will make a picture frame around the edge (we're talking about the cabinet on the wall not the stand alone china hutch...which by the way is a mix of full overlay and inset...and it was made in 1940...note the simple lines of the doors) ANyhoo, cabinet in the wall: The door style in the dining room wall cabinet is a bit more detailed than the kitchen. The full overlay allowed the biggest expanse of glass available, which I wanted so I could display a collection of venetian glass. I would not personally do this style as an inset. I think it's too busy for inset. Just for fun, this dresser has inset drawers. They have a bit more detail, but not much (a little bit of rounding on the edges) than my kitchen insets: These are full overlay cabinets. They're not finished in this pic (doors are missing while the glass blower makes the glass for them). But you can see the nice lines full overlay gives you: I wouldn't do that in an inset either. They're too much detail. You didn't ask...but here is one more choice you'll have to consider...the hinges. My kitchen (well all of my cabinets except this one) are hidden hinges. We did that because they're adjustable and our house moves alot since it's on pilings. But we had to do one cabinet with exposed hinges because it wasn't deep enough for the hidden ones (these doors open up to a flat end of the island, painted as a chalk board for my 3 year old to keep busy on): My son's bathroom cabinets are highly detailed carved doors, reverse raised panel, full overlay. I fell in love with them but they didn't go with the style of the kitchen, so I put them in his bathroom...rediculously expensive cabinets for a child's bath LOL But I really loved the doors and had to use them somewhere: and with glass: And last but not least (I told you I had a lot to share for options Heh heh) these are full overlay slab drawers and a simple shaker style or even slab type door with glass. They are in my master closet and I wanted to keep the details down given the small size of the room: A few choices you will also need to ponder are the debth of your counter overhangs. With inset you do 3/4" overhang and with standard doors, you do 1 1/2, but with a heavily carved deep door like in my son's room, I had to do 2" to cover the carving (you want 3/4 or so out from your doors so in case of spill, it does not run into your cabinets). I hope that helped :) And now...good luck! YOU'LL NEED IT!!! heh heh...See Moreinset vs. full-overlay... decisions...
Comments (29)You have to ask for the type of hinges that have full adjustment (they're normal for most cabinets now a days, but many people who want inset want exposed hinges and these are not exposed). Really, they're only necessary if you live in a house that sees a lot of movement. We do, being in an earth quake zone, on pilings, and in a frost heave area. The adjustable hinges ensure our doors will never stick, but that might be overkill for you. (In the pic you can see both styles...the squirrel cabinet has exposed hinges because it's only an inch deep and does not have room for adjustable hinges...it's a chalk board). I should have mentioned, I also did deeper cabinets, but I was going to even before I did inset. My uppers are all 15" after living with 12" uppers that didn't fit my dinner plates. The few inches is totally NOT noticable, until you open them and see how much more space you have. And as long as you're going with a custom builder...look to bigger lowers as well. We have 27" deep lowers on our stove side and just love them. (No uppers on that run). To me, the look of inset doors isn't necessarily vintage. My kitchen isn't vintage by any stretch of the imagination....I'd instead call it eclectic and classic. We have modern surfaces as well as old world But the inset doors and drawers, to me they say "rich" and I don't mean rich in money :OP But rich in details. Mine have a beaded edge and the detail is just fabulous IMO They're clean lined and classic, and worth every penny....See Moretdemonti
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