Austin's Boscobel & Endeavor reviews ?
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pink rose(9b, FL )
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Comments (180)One that really didn't "make it" for me is Spirit of Freedom. It hangs on, and it gives a few blooms a year, that flop, and often ball (people say it likes warm climates), and it is in a rose hedge in NE exposure. But in the sunnier spot, I didn't get one viable bloom. I also couldn't get my two own-root Othellos to take off for anything, but they seem so pretty, I may try again (you can still find them under their secondary name "Auslo"). But I now know that it was "my fault" some of my Austins that didn't make it . Like, for example, thanks to this forum, I learned that it takes a few years (at least 3 years) for many to get going, so I maybe I SP them too soon. When I first started gardening, I put things in the ground, never watered them, and if they made it, they made it, and surprisingly, quite a few of them did, including Lady Emma Hamilton and Claire Austin, which are both 16 years old, and survived a move. But they definitely were not giving the "best" of themselves. When I got a bigger garden, and tried some new Austins, I was really disappointed because I had so few blooms and a few croaked, so I started planting other things, but now am going back to them. Here are a couple of things I have learned from that experience (and thank you to the experts on this forum, among others like the Rose Geek and Darren Harwood, as my roses have never looked better or had buds so early!): 1) Soak bareroot roses longer and harder than most basic websites say (I even resurrected a few that seemed dry and dead in the box by leaving them soaking for days, and wow, did they hit the ground running compared to the ones from years past and has less die back) 2) in my opinon, it's better to get bareroots early in the season, when it's still warm, and plant before winter because the ones at the end of planting season can be dried-out conkers and they may freeze as they begin 3) plant them with good commercial dirt and feed if you have bad dirt in the ground (which I do) 4) and if potted, totally plant them with their dirt 5) to get the best of roses, it really is essential to feed or compost on the schedule experts like the Rose Geek give (In my "worst" exposure, I thought my lack of blooms, at first was due to not enough sun, but if I feed, I even get blooms in late fall, when they only get like an hour or two, and the healthier they are, the fewer diseases they get (like people) 6) DA roses and "baby" (new) roses do need more water than one thinks--this was my worst rookie mistake 7) many DA roses like cool and humid better than hot and dry 8) and, if struggling, don't hesitate to move them from hot to cooler, more or less sun, pot or ground, sometimes they come back in a new spot but sometimes they don't 9) Don't hesitate to put in the compost (or SP) a disease or pest magnet, as, when it's gone, the disease goes, and like jobs and partners, some are just a "bad fit" for one, even if good for others 10) giving roses a "haircut" ( remove leaves and prune) seems to help if massive infestation or disease attack, they will come back, and especially, get rid of leaves during winter prune, and that is how I got rid of nasty fungal attack due to bad experience with Baron Girod d'Ain. Also, in Europe, the DA roses I have are either on Laxa, own-root, or occasionally multi-flora, and they seem to perform quite differently than their US counterparts. Like my own-root Princes are healthy, continuous blooming stars. And my own-root Abes are a real toughies, too. These may be the basics for many people on this forum, but some DA roses are super tricky, and I almost gave up, so here is everything I have learned for those who are as frustrated as I was when I started! (And I am still learning so please take this advice as the imperfect, work in progress, it is! And thanks again to the experts here!)...See MoreWarm Climate David Austin Rose Heights
Comments (16)Liezel: I've also read some bad reviews about Claire Austin, but the one we planted at Humpty Dumpty House has been our best performing rose this year. It's planted in a very well amended bed, gets underground drip irrigation as well as a hose blasting once in a while, and is spiraled around a pillar. I've only fed it once so far, for lack of time. Unfortunately, most of the roses here get morning shade and blazing afternoon sun, and our summers are very hot and dry. Claire was always blanketed in a dozen or more elegant blooms till early autumn when her blooms got smaller and eventually decreased in number as well. Since blooms decreased on all the other roses in the same garden, I'm guessing that shade was the culprit. With the autumn sun lower in the sky, tall hedges, and overgrown trees, the roses were pretty much in bright shade all day long. We're chipping away at the trees and hedges to bring in a bit of sunshine, and I'm curious to see what happens to the roses next. By the way, another elegant climber that's ecru with the slightest blush of apricot is Wollerton Old Hall, in case you have access to that one and don't need a pure white. Wooly has a deeper cup than Claire, and holds its blooms even in strong winds. Have fun with your choices! I am so happy with our new David Austin roses, and hope you will be too. Our Claire is shown below. jannike...See MoreAustin roses at Lowe's
Comments (68)For you all buying potted roses with buds & flowers on them, do you plant them right away? I read somewhere that either to prune off the buds and flowers and replant, or wait until the blooms are done before planting. This is supposed to reduce stress. I can’t bear to cut off the buds....See MoreTell Me About DA's Boscobel
Comments (21)Noseometer, Actually I love Bishop's Castle. The pictures of the 3 Bishop's Castles spilling over the walls on Hoover Boo's blog (A Piece of Eden) did me in lol. If anyone hasn't read this blog, you should! Totally love it! pieceofeden.blogspot.com/2017/04/springsummer-project-2017.html?m=1 I am definitely ordering Bishop's Castle. Your Boscobel colors in the second photos are so pretty! I am so excited to get this one. Karen, you are welcome! Always happy to enable lol so I am glad I started this thread. I also noticed that the stems seem to hold up the blossoms of Boscobel fairly well. No weak necks here. Makes them appear even more bowel shaped. Does anyone think Boscobel would look pretty near Peach Swirl? http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.73905&tab=36...See More
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI just got Boscobel this spring from David Austin's website as a bare root. I've heard it can stay smaller in warm climates. It is going gangbusters here.
It smells like berry-something, and really yummy.
The flowers can bloom more pink or more apricot/coral sometimes all at the same time. They are very double and the flowers hang on for a long time. It has rained really hard and I'm shocked they held up because the flowers were like bowls full of rain water. Its only got up to about 85F so far this spring and they were fine with that.
Best of all the frogs love them..enough said lol.
Partially opened blossoms.
whole bush..maybe 2ftH x 3ft W so far. It like to stretch out. The growth habit reminds me a little of Jubilee Celebration.
Fully opened bloom..froggy approved
I need 5 more Boscobels!!
pink rose(9b, FL ) thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)pink rose(9b, FL )
6 years agosultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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SoFL Rose z10
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Sun2shinie, Arkansas z7a
6 years agosultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoSoFL, I live in a wooded rural residential area of Jax on the outskirts of the city. I quit spraying pesticides several years ago and they all started showing up.
I think it also helps to have lots of shady trees, water nearby- like a pond or river, or even a have water feature that has vegetation like a shallow plant bog (which I have as well as waterlily tubs etc) for them to lay eggs/ tadpoles to live. The tadpoles eat vegetation so thats why you need plants in the water feature.
I actually have 2 kinds of tree frogs here. Green and Squirrel Tree frogs. Both of these types of frogs have the same needs and lay eggs and breed at the same time.
Life cycle of the green tree frog.
http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/greentreefrog.htm
Life cycle of the Squirrel Tree Frog
http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/squirreltreefrog.htm
So, the frogs here are the little native Green Tree Frogs and some are Squirrel Tree Frogs. They look very similar and hard to tell apart at times. Some are very very tiny.
Many of the Green Tree Frogs in particular, have gone missing from the southern parts of FL now due to the invasive Cuban Tree Frog species that gobbles up tge native frogs, lizards, etc.
There are Cuban frogs up in No FL now too, so who knows how long until these little green guys are extinct here. I am happy they like it here and are multiplying. They eat up my bugs and sleep in the flowers.
Here is a photo list of Florida's tree frogs. You can see how similar the Green Tree Frogs and Squirrel Tree Frogs are..
http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/frogs/treefrogs.shtml
More about the Invasive Cuban Tree Frog: http://www.wec.ufl.edu/extension/wildlife_info/frogstoads/osteopilus_septentrionalis.php
This is my pinky fingernail next to a frog (bottom left). See how tiny they are!! This one is probably a baby Squirrel Tree Frog.
towandaaz
6 years agosultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
6 years agoSoFL Rose z10
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gagalzone8
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoRaspberry Cream Twirl is disease free, thornless, a great bloomer, and beautiful. It has fragrance but isn't very strong at all. It is mannerly and you can bend the canes easily how you want them.
I got one own root a few yrs ago and didn't know if it would be a good grower on its own roots here but its great, about 10 ft right now. It looks pretty with a white moonvine or lavender passiflora. It would probably look pretty with a light pink climbing rose as well like Spirit of Freedom or other lilac pink.
It blooms in clusters of 4 or 5.
gagalzone8
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6 years agopink rose(9b, FL )
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6 years agoSultry, Eeeee!! Your Boscobel is beeeeautiful! I can’t wait. Here’s our Boscobel. I hope to have flowers maybe later this month. I’d agree it’s more upright growing (at least so far) than many of our other DAs. I’ve read it’s supposed to be a smaller size and hope it will be happy in this pot. Seems good so far. :-)
Please ignore unmowed weeds/grass in background. Al would probably be mortified I shared. ;-) lol He cut it the next day.
And most of the smaller pots here are on hold for their spot in a bed we are extending.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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Ann9BNCalif
6 years agoMy Boscobel has hardly grown after a year but my Endeavour Rose (dark pink on the left) that I got at the same time in spring 2017 is doing well. It's not very big so far but someone in a similar climate to mine says that her rose has reached 5ft after three years. Mine reached about 2ft at the end of 2017.
The two roses bottom left and middle left belong to another friend who's had this rose for several years. The other photos are my rose in its first year. There's quite a bit of variation in color and form. It's fragrant and likes to bloom. I don't get much disease in my climate so I can't comment. I'm glad I got this rose and I'm looking forward to seeing how it does in its second year!
Ann
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoAnn9BNCalif
6 years agoI only got a few Boscobel blooms last year and they were all pink with a slight orange undertone. Endeavour has a strong orangey brown undertone when Iit first starts to bloom. It then becomes pink with a slightly brown undertone (in my climate I should add.)
Not the best photos due to too much sun. The second photo is the best in terms of color but the rose is bigger and more cupped than these photos show.
Ann
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6 years agonoseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
6 years agoBoscobel was planted in my yard last year, and seemed vigorous. It bloomed nearly continuously even as a new plant and through the heat when most roses stop. As others have mentioned, the color was variable.
Ann, what are the light pink roses behind/next to your Boscobel? They look fabulous, too!
pink rose(9b, FL ) thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)Ann9BNCalif
6 years agonoseometer - It's actually The Endeavour rose that I posted, not Boscobel which hasn't done much in my yard after he was planted last year. The pink roses to the right of TE are Chaucer which is starting his second year. He stands up to heat well, and is fragrant. The pink roses in the background are Olivia Rose Austin, starting her third year. ORA was moved and didn't love that but has finally settled in and blooming very well.
Endeavour below right, Chaucer left. This is opposite view of the yard from the one above.
Olivia Rose Austin
Endeavour Rose - early bloom stage with pinky brown undertone.
Ann
pink rose(9b, FL ) thanked Ann9BNCalifsultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years agoAnn9BNCalif
6 years agosultry - thank you for your kind comments. I agree that ORA blooms a lot and the blooms last a long time. Her first year, ORA through out long canes but after moving her, she has remained a short rose. She seems to have put the energy into blooming instead of growing which is ok.
Here's a photo of the same shrub two years ago. The spray in the rear is from the same plant in the foreground, it was wider and taller initially. I believe the roots were damaged in the move and she hasn't quite recovered.
noseometer - you might try ORA. She seems to stand up to a lot of adversity without much of a problem. Here's a collage I did a year ago. Not as fragrant as Sharifa but the petals have more substance making her a tougher rose than SA.
Ann
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoHello,
I only have Boscobel. I have to say it is one of my favorite roses already. It started blooming on the first summer it was planted. This year it set buds so early I thought they were burned and wouldn’t oppen. Today I got home after being away for a week and was pleasantly surprised. I would highly recommend this rose. It seems healthy in my garden, but I spray. Size is too early to tell since this is their deconstruct year in my garden, but it is maybe 2 feet tall at its tallest point.
Desdemona in the background.
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)