Tell Me About DA's Boscobel

6 years ago

Is Boscobel one of those Austins that get really large? Will it climb? What color is it usually..more pink, orange, or coral? What other colors do you have yours planted with? I finally ordered this one and I'm making some new flower beds. I am trying to figure out what colors will look best with it.

~Sjn

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho

6 years ago

I love Boscobel, sultry. He's a reliable bloomer, and I think he will end up at about 5 feet tall. Bosco has a very nice growth habit with no long, floppy canes to cause problems. The photo with Bosco next to Golden Celebration is a little deceptive since Boscobel grew quite a bit after it was taken, and GC is huge. Boscobel doesn't seem to have a strong scent so far, but he is still pretty young, so we'll see how that plays out. Many of his blooms are medium pink, but a few have some coral-ish shades in the center of the bloom--nothing nearly as bad as Princess Al of Kent in our heat. She turned a garish coral, and has gone to rose heaven, or maybe worse. She was big and thuggish in this garden. Diane

Bosco and his big pal Golden Celebration

More coral below, but light conditions can make a difference in these photos.

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rosecanadian
6 years ago
I'd like to know more about it too! Good idea, Sjn! I'd also like to know about fragrance.

Carol
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
6 years ago
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New one last year here. Mine was a bit coral, which was not what I was looking for. Diane knows the most. I'm hoping for more pink this year.
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
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Mine varies in color with the temperature, only having the apricot or coral tones when it's cool out. In your Florida heat, I'd expect it to mostly look like this:

In cool temperatures, mine can take on pink with an apricot cast in the center, but not very often:

It can occasionally look fairly coral in the colors, maybe even as apricot as Sweet Fragrance for a short period of time. This is an accurate color at the time:

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
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Thanks Cynthia and Sheila, that's a great report on coloring. So if I put it with pinks and yellows or with, say, Lilian Austin. She is a warm medium pink with yellow in the center..maybe that would be okay. I never know what certain roses are going to do here. Munstead Wood and William Shakespeare 2000 can be screaming bright magenta in the summer and then deep dark red in the winter. Its kinda annoying lol, so I just have them off by themselves.

Maybe add some blue salvia (blue loves everybody color wise) and yellow daylilies or something..
Dave5bWY
6 years ago
I received Boscobel last spring from Diane’s enabling power :) I was impressed with this its first season. Healthy it’s first year, only moderate fragrance for me but hope this improves as it matures. It did have some coral tones in the summer. I think it meshes well with the apricots and yellows. I only have a picture of it in spring.
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towandaaz
6 years ago
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I was also impressed with Boscobel - last year being my first with it from DA (bare root). So much so I'd like another. It bloomed freely throughout the summer. I like the color because it's so different. Here's it's Spring flush:

SJN, it doesn't look like it's going to get really big here but as you can see mine's in a pot and it was only it's first year. The shape stayed more compact than other Austins - as Diane mentioned. I get only a mild fragrance, but it's pleasant. I think you're right on with your color pairings.
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rosecanadian
6 years ago
Wow!!! Such loveliness!!! I love it!

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
I am in awe of you guys' Boscobels! I was gonna get it last year but it sold out. I'm glad I was able to snag one this year.

Diane, I love how Boscobel looks with yellow. I also ordered a grafted Golden Celebration to replace my own root GC that died in the hurricane water. I'm gonna plant them together!

Funny how the colors of roses are so different in different climates, my PAoK has never had any coral just nice warm pink even at 100F..I'm thinking it must be the humidity. However, my reds like Mr Lincoln, MW, and WS2k all turn magenta in the heat. Its frustating. However, Mr Don Juan, who jumped in my cart making promises against my protests, one Valentine's Day at Walmart (how's that for a ghetto romance) has lived up to them and stays a perfect deep red lol..

Dave, Yes, Diane's photos have enabled me quite a bit as well lol. She is a good sales person with her photos. I would buy one of everything in her yard if I thought it would do well here lol. Your Boscobel looks great for its first year. The flowers look so big!

I love the coral tones you have going on. Too bad my Evelyn is such a stinkpot. She would have looked good with it I bet. I do have another Abe Darby coming I might grow him with the Boscobel and GC.

townandaaz, Thanks for the gorgeous photos. They do look yummy. I wouldn't mind if they were that color of pink part of the year. How often does yours bloom? Also, Im still thinking about your lovely Eden in her pretty pot lol! You do grow nice roses!

Do you have rocky soil there, is that why yours are in pots? I have several pot ghettos here mainly due to nematodes but Im kinda getting tired of watering them everyday plus the roots all just go straight through the holes and 10 feet into the ground anyways lol. So Im slowly gonna just put them into the ground and cross my fingers and toes.
noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
6 years ago
With my young plant, in warmer weather, the yellow fades out more quickly. In cooler weather, the color can be rather glowing.

Looks almost like Bishop's Castle here.

Sometimes this color, which I think is rather striking.
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rosecanadian
6 years ago
Sultry - getto romance!!! Love it!! I totally agree with you...if the roots are in the dirt anyway...might as well plant them.

Noseometer - They're both gorgeous...but, yeah, I may like the bottom one a scootch more. :)
Carol
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KarenPA_6b
6 years ago
Just want to say thanks to SNJ for starting this thread and all the responses and pics of Boscobel. I was interested in this rose but after I read the reviews and and saw all the gorgeous pics of this rose, I am totally in love with it. It is going into my garden this spring! What a beautiful upward presentation this rose has!
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
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Noseometer, Actually I love Bishop's Castle. The pictures of the 3 Bishop's Castles spilling over the walls on Hoover Boo's blog (A Piece of Eden) did me in lol. If anyone hasn't read this blog, you should! Totally love it! pieceofeden.blogspot.com/2017/04/springsummer-project-2017.html?m=1

I am definitely ordering Bishop's Castle.

Your Boscobel colors in the second photos are so pretty! I am so excited to get this one.

Karen, you are welcome! Always happy to enable lol so I am glad I started this thread. I also noticed that the stems seem to hold up the blossoms of Boscobel fairly well. No weak necks here. Makes them appear even more bowel shaped.

Does anyone think Boscobel would look pretty near Peach Swirl?

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.73905&tab=36
towandaaz
6 years ago
Sorry about the duplicated photos... Houzz was not uploading them properly and then decided to load both attempts. A new "feature?" lol I love that second photo of Noseometer's.

SJN, Boscobel bloomed really well for a first year plant. It seemed to always have at least one bloom.

I have most of my roses in pots because we're planning a backyard remodel. It is rocky here, but not prohibitively so. We'll be removing a fence that's tight around our pool and extending it out to connect to the house on two sides and re-landscaping the whole area. I think sometimes, I get lucky with some roses but ultimately, if the potted roses are in full sun and get enough water (a lot) they do pretty well.

Ghetto romance? Good one.
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Lisa Adams
6 years ago
Gorgeous pictures everyone! I’m happy to see this thread, as I too have an ownroot Boscobel coming from DA. I ordered it because Nik, on the Antique forum recommended it for a warm climate and it’s compact shape. I plan to put mine in a raised bed with my Princess Charlene de Monaco’s (2), Sweet Mademoiselle (1), Abe Darby (1), and Moonlight Romantica (1). Since the Princess CdM’s are so tall and narrow I may plant Boscobel just in front and between the two PCdM’s. I hear Boscobel is a wonderful rose! I can’t wait to try it, and your pictures make me even more excited! Lisa
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caflowerluver
6 years ago
On central coast CA it is definitely pink. I love the shape of it. I have it planted in between Lady Emma Hamilton and Munstead Wood.

Lady Emma

Munstead Wood
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
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caflowerluver, All your photos are beautiful but I am in love with your Lady Emma Hamilton! She really gets some nice coloring in your climate! I had a small own root band and it never did well it was a weak plant and died lol. Looking at yours, maybe I will try again but with a grafted one next time. She has pretty foliage too. Thanks for your photos. Is your Lady Emma H. grafted?

~Sjn
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
Lisa, your color scheme for planting Boscobel sounds pretty. I have another Abe Darby and PCdM also coming. My other Abe got over 5ft in a pot the first year. Im kinda afraid what he will do in the ground here. If PCdM gets just as big they might eat Boscobel. I also wanted to put Golden Celebration in there. I hope poor Boscobel can survive. If not, I will have to move him lol. Good idea of putting him more upfront in the bed. I might try that. I wonder how deep of a bed I should make? Right now its 5 ft wide..maybe I should make it wider.
caflowerluver
6 years ago
SJN- Yes it is grafted. Just got it last year from DA. I love how it changes color. Here is a more full on shot. Taken early morning, it doesn't do the rose justice.
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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6 years ago
Very nice! She has a soft glow about her.
a1an
4 years ago
1st Boscobel bloomed just opened up. Lovely. Reminds me of the peony's I got rid of. I love peonies - just hated the short bloom time and then just pure foliage for the rest of the season. 3-10 days, or LESS of blooms, depending on the spring rains. If every rose I planted had this cupped look and it bloomed and lasted all summer long, I'll be one happy camper.
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