Japanese Maple — Emporer 1 vs. Bloodgood | Zone 10a
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Zone 5 Shindeshojo or Fireglow ?
Comments (3)If you want the most red year round, then Fireglow is the one you want. I think it's better than the Bloodgood. With all maple tree, it prefers morning sun and then afternoon shade. However, I have seen mature hardy trees being able to handle the afternoon sun. I have seen that it does much better when it's in the ground vs. pot. Also, make sure that the trunk is shaded during the afternoon sun. Another option you can do is keep the plant in the pot and plant it in the ground with the original pot for 1 year. If it survives in that spot, then remove the pot and plant it in the ground permanently. The location, the type of soil, the watering, etc can contribute the death of your previous tree. FYI, I'm not an expert... :) This post was edited by May888 on Fri, May 30, 14 at 0:09...See MoreJapanese Maples for zone 5--some confusion
Comments (13)Good someone else posted ...one problem with this site is you can't ( or I haven't figured out) how to do a direct followup..if I leave something out IT won't let ya wants you to start another thread... Anyway your additional info on protection I think is very apropros...The more screening you have the better I have white pines ...Big "ums" on the north and west of my 1&1/2 acre back yard and my large two story brick on the south...the only semi exposed side is the east and as we all know it is not often storms and wind come from that direction (here)...( Boston YES)... I do NOT plant Jm's in my front yard cause of strong south winds winter and summer and the farmers field just accross the road who sprays herbicides whenever the jerk pleases...and even in non windy conditions roundup and other stuff can jump from field to field. The idea of burlap wrap seems logical ... I enclose all my jms ( younger ones ) in 4 ft 3/8" rebar sorounded by 2 ft chicken wire to keep the rabbits/ mice out and my jerk young dog who will eat anything it also provides a good enclosure for a heavey the mulching ( I use cedar mulch ...less bug problems )...it would be a very easy step to attach burlap to that...( you might want to use 3 or 4 ft chicken wire if they are bigger trees and keep the burlap higher)...you'd be killing two problems with one stone that way. Once you get the hang of it ( buy a cheap pair of tin snips for cutting the chicken wire)it takes about 2-3 minites a tree and requires NO tying of the wire...just wrapping ( you would have to tie the burlap on some how)... I also agree on ebay and tree diseases ...although many sellers like herter, lace leaf, cal maple,nishiman are also nurseries and buying from them pretty much insures at least occasional inspections ...My complaint is size and often down right mis-representation...most one year grafts are actually only "first year grafts not more than 4-6 months old at most!!! and many one gals are not two years old but actually just ONE!!! david...See MoreJapanese Maple Sources
Comments (41)arial, Forest Farm has an extensive collection of JM (Acer Palmatum). Their catalog has a description of each variety, its foliage colors and growth habits. You can look through there and decide what sounds appealing. Your public library might also have a very good book called Japanese Maples by J.D. Vertrees that describes several hundred cultivars in detail. His couple of pages of discussion of containers state that most types of JM can be successfully grown in containers. He says that the dissectum group (aka thread or cut leaf varieties) and the dwarfs do especially well in containers. Here is a link that might be useful: Forestfarm...See MoreEmperor 1
Comments (9)I'm not sure I understand your question. Who is the "group"? There is a great deal of research and scientific study worldwide currently being conducted on the various strains of verticillium and developing plants that have resistance, however much of the focus is with more economically significant agricultural crops. How likely this type of research will be applied to more ornamental crops is a bit of a guess, but I'd surmise there is far less financing available to fund this type of study. As to delaying the onset, much can be done by adhering to careful planting practices and scrupulous aftercare. Investigation is being conducted into various soil amendments that may contribute to neutralizing or slowing the emergence of the pathogen but nothing definitive has been concluded. Certainly developing a healthy, bioactive soil system should be helpful, as large populations of beneficial microorganisms can be a deterrent. Acknowledging the cultural requirements of the plants in question and reducing stressors that may reduce resistance and encourage the pathogen is extremely important, as stressed plants are far more likely to become infected than those in robust health. And understanding the pathogen and how it works can help as well. Once the pathogen has infected the tree, there is very little one can do to stop the progress. Generally, once the disease becomes noticeable, it is typically too late to attempt much of anything, although pruning out affected branches/tissue is reputed to help. However, since the pathogen does not always follow a predetermined course once it has invaded the vascular system, pruning may or may not be effective. Older, established trees are sometimes able to compartmentalize the disease and restrict it to a specific section of the canopy - these subjects are more likely to respond to pruning. But one of the characteristics of this disease is often a very rapid decline, after which there is little, if anything, one can do other than remove the tree. It is not curable or reversable, so even more mature trees that have successfully compartmentalized the disease remain at risk of sudden death....See Moregardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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