Deciding between Okna 600, Okna 800 and Starmark window in cherry....
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Comments (3)+1. One might question whether it is worth the premium to upgrade over the 800 series, but that really depends on how much extra that you would pay. I tend to prefer the 800 with additional glass area (thinner frame/sash profile) and a the similar performance... Either way, you won't go wrong. Both are fantastic products....See MoreOkna vs. Alside
Comments (9)We decided to go with the Insul-Tec deluxe with Low-E/Argon which has a U-factor of 0.25 and SGHC of 0.30. The Okna 500 series also has a VT of 0.55 and Condensation Resistance rating of 62 according to NFRC. We were quoted $11K for 18 windows in total installed for work to be done in the NYC Metro area: 12 DH (7 - 30"W x 49"H, 1 - 30"W x 41"H, 1 - 27"W x 37"H, 1 - 24"W x 36"H, 1 - 23" x 36"H, 1 - 41"W x 49"H), 4 Double Sliders ( 1- 36"W x 35"H in the kitchen, 3 - 64"W x 62"H in the family room), 2 - 68"W x 50"H 3-lite Casements (all vent). Did we get a good deal or did we overpay? We originally thought about getting a 2-lite casement instead of a double slider ( 36"W x 35"H) in the kitchen which is what we have now, but the salesman convinced us that it would not look that great since the frames in the middle would meet in the casement and create a thick middle. While I could see what he was saying, I don't know if he was just saying it because he didn't want to give us the two lite casement for the same price or what. He did offer as an alternative an awning window or 1-lite casement for the kitchen window at the same price as the double slider....See MoreOkna 600 review
Comments (34)I must be the first one to say that I hate my Okna windows. They put them in a double wide mobile home. They are double hung and they are heavy. When I go to pull down the top and tilt it in, they always go crooked no matter how careful I am and they jump the track and I can't get them back in. One, something busted that had to be fixed trying to get it back in. I don't know how many times I had to call the window company to come and put them back in. We got these to be easier to clean so my husband who is 74, wouldn't have to get on a ladder to clean the outside. It isn't worth it, so now they will be cleaned again from the outside and I guess I will be the one to get on the ladder as he has a lot of health problems. I paid over $13,000 for these to have it easier, not harder. One thing is that the strings on the sides seem too thin for the heavy windows. I had a contractor here and told him about it and he looked and said it is ridiculous. Thought It was me being a woman, even though I followed the instuctions from the company, but it started to go crooked for him too. Never again!...See MoreOkna Windows vs Renewal by Andersen
Comments (34)@todd , I certainly do have current test results for every product that I sell, and several that I don't. To answer your question, Okna's NFRC labels show <.1 which is the lowest rating that NFRC will display, but not as low as the certified test result of any of their products. The literature/website likely has an outdated version of the sticker for demonstration purposes. If you are frustrated because Andersen or any other manufacturer is more clandestine about their structural ratings, take that up with them. Perhaps "they don't care" about air ratings as you've stated. That's something that consumers may want to consider and draw their own conclusions as to why. I have my opinion on that. I stated that there are windows that have sliders that are more air tight than dh's. They are far fewer in number than the reverse however. That is inarguable. Okna in particular has a nice chart on on their brochures that shows dh, sl, and ca. I can;t speak for other manufacturers, but rating is published in their sales literature. In my opinion, when someone posts initially, there is no reason to offer a bibliography with it. If someone questions that information as accurate, then certainly sources and data are valuable tools. If I am going to challenge someone else's assertions, it would be incumbent on me to back that up, and they would then respond in kind. With that said, I have no idea where you are going with any of this Todd, there is no reason to breakdown the structure of a proper and effective debate. Back to your original comments, I find air infiltration ratings to be a very effective tool for consumers. I believe that it is an important factor, and also that it is typically an indicator of quality. Most of the better windows recommended here have good air infiltration ratings due to a good design, quality, and tight manufacturing tolerances. It is only one number however in a group of both thermal and structural ratings that should be considered, and those should be considered and given proper weight as well....See MoreHomeSealed Exteriors, LLC
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