Louise Odier is beginning again!
Lisa Adams
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
My surprising superstar, ‘Louise Odier’ is putting out her spring buds, after being cut back by about a third in January. She’s one of the only ones who’s showing signs of a real spring flush, since many of my roses are young. I was late to prune many of my roses, so some are lagging a bit behind. My new roses from Cliff in the desert, needed to be cut back quite a bit for the move, so they are busy rebuilding. Louise Odier looks like she can’t wait to get going.
Louise Odier bush, today.
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My Louise Odier is blooming!
Comments (10)Thank you everyone for your kind words. I think keeping her in the semi shade helped her blooms to be darker (maybe). I'm happy to hear that she's reblooming for David and minflik, maybe I'll get lucky. I didn't expect much out of her to be honest, just too warm here for some roses. Ingrid, I rarely use any chemicals either, but have done so as a last resort a couple of times. This is not a last resort situation. The rust she has is very little and localized to one side shoot. I'm tempted to just pick off those leaves and dispose of them. Is that an option? Or would that not help? I don't have much experience with rust and I hope not to acquire any more:)...See MoreI am so impressed with Louise Odier
Comments (63)Thank you, NewbieRoseLover. Louise Odier has really surpassed my expectations in my hot and dry climate. I don’t know if it’s my clay soil or that I received a particularly good clone, or perhaps a combination of the two. She’s finally resting now, and I need to look into how best to prune her. I ordered a used book on pruning and training roses on Amazon recently, that has proven to be totally juvenile and useless. I like the look of Reine Victoria, too! If I had more space, energy, and water, I’d grow it as well. Did you notice the other pictures above by other forum members of their Louise Odier? Some have much softer pink blooms, I wonder why? I do hope you will be comfortable sharing photos when you’re ready. It’s very exciting to see rose gardens “from the ground up”, so to speak, and watch them grow. Here is a picture of Louise Odier this morning. She’s gotten rather sprawling. Lisa...See MoreIt’s getting a little picture skinny here lately
Comments (77)Shucks! I wrote a long post, and uploaded many pictures and then my phone rang. When I had finished my call, everything was gone:( Try #2 Thanks for your kind words, Ingrid. Did you happen to read my message to you on the Annie Laurie McDowell thread? I’m still having my emails to you returned with the message, “ Unable to deliver your email because the recipients inbox is full”. I remember getting the same thing months ago, when I tried that g_g_g address. I did take some more pictures today, including some of Mel’s Heritage from a distance. These pictures don’t really give a good sense of how large he really is. I’ve begun to think of him as “a nosey guy”, as he’s always getting into everyone else’s business. His canes are everywhere! It’s been too hot out for me lately, but now starting to cool down. About 10F less during the day, and I’m planning on getting Mel’s Heritage under control. More canes will need to be attached to the fence, some will need to be attached to small stakes along the slope(for guidance), and a few may need to be cut back. WAY BACK! He’s already climbing into Duchesse de Brabant at the bottom of the slope, and many other roses. I really cannot believe how fast he’s growing. It’s amazing and I have never seen a rose grow so quickly. Felicia is also in bloom, and I love her. Alnwick Castle is lovely today, but the blooms will blow tomorrow. They just don’t last in the dry heat. Silver Cloud, a Ralph Moore rose is having a nice flush. Too bad my Irish Creme is still tightly budded. They make wonderful vase partners. Chartreuse de Parme has such a big bloom on this tiny bush. I’m sure new growth is on the way, only in the ground a week or three. Golden Buddha, a Paul Barden rose, is one of the rare roses that truly remains compact and short here in S CA. I wish it didn’t fade so much, but I do have it in full sun. Abraham Darby always seems to have at least a bloom or two between big flushes. That’s it for the moment. I will be back with some Bolero blooms. Not an OGR, but has DA type blooms on a tidy, compact plant. It’s always blooming in full sun and a great cut flower. Lisa...See MoreIs this a Louise Odier sucker?
Comments (28)OK, I'm popping back here upon further thought...... When I first read your worries about this rose suckering, and perhaps not being 'Louise Odier', I was of the mind that you were thinking it might be some completely other kind of rose. To my eyes, I don't see anything about your rose that would lead me to believe it was anything other than a Bourbon. Looking at RVR's inventory alphabetically, there's nothing nearby with which it could possibly have been confused, and which you got instead. Compared to the others nearby alphabetically, your rose most closely resembles 'Louise Odier', so I stuck with that. Maybe what RVR sells as 'Louise Odier' isn't the real thing, but at least it's a Bourbon. Then I started thinking about other Bourbon possibilities, and now I'm wondering if, rather than something similar alphabetically, a mistake was made with something similar sounding. I'm wondering if you may actually have 'Rose Edouard', which could have been misread as 'Louise Odier' if tags were faded, or someone simply misheard the name. If this is the case, I wouldn't worry about replacing the rose. From all I've read of 'Louise Odier', she performs best in areas that are more mild in Winter and Summer. Those who report she repeats regularly seem to not experience very hot Summers, while those with hot Summers say she's essentially once-blooming. Those who report she's Winter-hardy seem to not experience very cold Winters. Meanwhile, 'Rose Edouard' grows well where Summers are hot. It also is known to sucker tightly and lightly -- not nearly to the extent of Gallicas, but within the realm of "normal" for many long-caned Bourbons. It has less-full and darker blooms than 'Louise Odier', and also can have seven leaflets per leaf. If this is what happened, then the error is certainly in your favor -- you got a rose that should do better for you than would the real 'Louise Odier'. Then again, I'm still not certain that what pics I've seen of your plant fall outside the realm of possibilities for the true 'Louise Odier'. Adding more confusion, it seems the 'Rose Edouard' versions out there fall into two general types -- and the one pictured at RVR isn't the type that resembles your rose. So, now I'm not sure, but whatever you have, it's a Bourbon as far as I can see. :-/ ~Christopher...See More
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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6 years agoThis rose just keeps giving! I cut bloom after bloom for bouquets. I just love her. Lisa
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