How would you landscape this natural under-tree area?
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Comments (9)First, I believe your "pine" is really a cedar (Cedrus species), as best as I can tell from the distance of the photo. And obviously landscaping under it in the traditional sense is not gonna work, which is why nothing grows there now - too large a tree with a too dense root system, lots of surface roots and too much shade. Bark or wood chips may be your best move, with perhaps a few partially imbedded landscape boulders to add interest. Keep the chip or bark mulch pretty light - too thick a layer can smother those roots - 2 inches is plenty and you can always touch up as necessary. With a tree this well-established and mature, you can skip the soakers as well.....that root system is able to access all the moisture the tree needs to survive all but the most prolonged droughts. You are going to have similar issues with the oaks - well-established trees with an aggressive root system. A good shade and drought tolerant groundcover may work (check local nurseries for what they'd recommend for your area), but be careful about too much cultivation under these trees - oaks in particular resent having their roots messed about with. You may decide to mulch directly under the canopies and place the GC at the dripline. With careful selection of a groundcover, it may creep back a bit under the trees on its own....See MoreHow to landscape under old hemlocks
Comments (11)Sorry for the late response. I thought I would get an email if someone responded to my thread, but I guess I don't! Thanks for your responses. Yes, the hemlocks are ours (unfortunately, until recently I thought they were on public land because they are behind the fence). I would love to remove them (although my husband thinks the screening is important there). Unfortunately, that would be prohibitively expensive (there are 17 total - even with a quantity discount it would still be around 10K, I would guess). We already had a large pine tree removed this year, and I don't think I can coax my husband into spending any more money on tree work... So for now, I have to live with them. The area only gets late afternoon dappled sun, because there is also a mature cherry tree in the yard that's overshadowing everything. I have thought of rhododendrons and azaleas. Not sure how they would do. The previous owners had some small azaleas planted back there, which don't look like they are doing too well. Otherwise, all that's growing in this area is vinca. By ugly view I mean the bare fence. I need something to cover it and make a backdrop for the rest of the garden that I am planning... Thank you for any suggestions you might have (short of getting rid of the trees, which I know would be preferable given their condition and with regard to my landscaping plans)!...See MoreWhat would you say is the most UNDERplanted tree for your area?
Comments (19)Lacey...that's an interesting observation. Because plain-old soulangeana and stellata, at the very least, seem to be totally standard landscape material anywhere along the I-95 corridor, as far as I can tell. Probably one of the top 5 flowering trees in SE PA/CB/Balto/DC area gardens if considered as a genus. I second hairmetal's listing of Abies that will grow here. My Abies firmas are loving the wet year and one of them, I am not kidding, looks like it will easily put on 4' of growth this year. Yet they have not been particularly bothered by the years with bad dry spells in summer (2010, 2011, and 2012) coping with bone dry soil only a year after they were planted in 2009. Yes, I have a high water table and moisture-retentive soil and no, I'm not saying everyone in the high plains and desert southwest should start planting Abies firma! But they are not as fussy as might be expected. And as for other species, though I don't want to see an Abies pindrow planted at every gas station, they are very exotic looking to my eyes at least and would certainly excite more collectors of the rare and uncommon if only they knew about it. (The big 15 footer at the old Dilworth Nursery stood out in a whole field of exotic conifers like a glistening, plastic seeming subtropical outsider. Wow...if I'd known the nursery was going to be destroyed, I would have paid a pretty penny to move that onto my property. I sure hope it didn't end up as mulch but I have a bad feeling it did.) And though I doubt it's quite as hardy as Abies firma, it's proving to be similarly easy to grow. Mine were perfectly fine after these winters but I wonder how the one growing at the Arnold Arboretum fared. As an added benefit it is fragrant while Abies firma is not. Other promsing Asian firs include A. delavayi. Could be too soon to say for sure but my own-root ones seem to be doing well in these recent wet, muggy summers. Spruceman's big grafted one in his dry, windswept upper Shenandoah valley garden was a little stressed out appearing, but the overall look of the plant was noteworthy: somehow *very* alpine looking. Even more so than certain Abies koreanas I've seen in Midatlantic area gardens. Probably looking like what a straight species A. lasiocarpa might look like. A species which is ungrowable for most of south of the Great Lakes and New England....See MoreLandscaping under a large oak tree
Comments (5)I garden on sandy loam under oaks and my favorite low and mowable groundcovers are the stonecrop type of sedum (I really love blue spruce sedum) and ajuga. just mulch mow the leaves over them in the fall or whenever you get to it and let the chopped leaves enrich the soil. They won't take a lot of foot traffic so wouldn't be ideal right around the table or in the path to that door. They stay really short, under two inches here and get weekly watering in the hot part of the summer here north of Fort Worth....See Morerp2b
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