I changed the entrance of my shower tub. The panel board was moldy; water was getting in between the top tiles and the panel board. the joint was not well sealed. I put new everything for the entrance, even a membrane between the plywood and the tiles. However, it seems to leak from the wall now. Water is coming out of the wall outside the shower tub. Would it be the grout, tiles...? Tiles and grout are probably 20+ yrs old ( turquoise tiles). I tried to put some ready grout ( in a tube), but it still leaks! Calking is well done. Should I remove the old grout and put new one everywhere? Thanks for your help!

For nearly 20 years, we've lived with two travertine bathrooms done by the previous homeowners. Considering they were do-it-yourselfers, they did pretty good. One bathroom, our guest bathroom, has an antique hutch converted into a bathroom vanity with marble replacing the countertop surfaces (I love that piece), marble floors, a slab marble tub counter, marble on the walls, a marble wide windowsill, and a marble with wood trim tub surround. The wood was probably not the best idea around a bathtub, but it has not warped and has help up pretty well. It's required repainting, of course. I am mindful to keep the wood as dry as possible. The grand slab bathtub counter (don't know what else to call it) has held up well. We've had to replace plumbing, but the marble has held up. Maybe next year, we will have the marble polished up in there. That bathroom has light to moderate use and has, miraculously, no real etching even after 20 years. Some hard water deposits around the toilet base. The caulk (sanded caulk?) needs to be replaced around the perimeter where the marble on the walls of the shower/tub touches the marble slab counter. For what it is worth, we never put in a shower curtain there - it is a bathtub bathroom only. I think that helped preserve the marble and the wood. The marble on the windowsill was not done correctly. The windowsill had to be reworked by experts who chose to demo and replace it with something else. Our master bathroom is all pinkish travertine. This bathroom features the travertine shower with glass doors, pinkish (really flesh colored)travertine on the walls, and the windowsills as well. Same problem in here with the travertine on the windowsills. Those sills cracked, warped, and had to be replaced. There is a weird problem on the wall. It looks like there was some filler used in the travertine when it was sold/installed. Over time, the filler seems to have evaporated and has left a more pitted and hollowed surface. The affected area is directly above the wall mounted lights that flank the mirror. I think the heat from the lights might have contributed to it. It looks odd. I have found a tile and marble restoration person. After we finish other projects this year, I'll consider having him inspect and repolish this bathroom, too. This second bathroom has a travertine shower. The shower is badly etched and I don't trust the pan. We have had hard water at times over the past 20 years. The hard water is not kind to the marble. Also, we certainly should have recaulked over the years. Didn't know to do that. Probably sealer too? Not sure, but we had no idea how to take care of it. There is etching of the marble, too, where we used too harsh of cleaning products. I am the most unhappy with the travertine in this shower. I don't think I want a marble or travertine shower in any remodels in the future, but for lower-use situations, like our guest bath, it still works for me. If well-trained adults are the occupants, it might work. My husband, though, tends to nuke the shower to clean it on an occasional burst of energy without my OK. I should have a bathroom that he can nuke with Lime-Away if he wants to, not something with a picky product like marble. I have found a steam cleaner to be useful inside the shower for cleaning. Not sure if it gets the experts OK, but that is what I've been doing in recent years. I haven't needed to use the steam cleaner anywhere but in the shower. The floor in both baths is travertine. We had a bathroom scale that left a small rust stain on the floor where the plastic glide came off its foot. I was able to rub most of it out, forgot what I used - - some sort of Helful Hint - but a bit remains. I am super-hyper about no metal in the bathroom on the floors -- no metal trash cans or step stools, for example, even if coated in plastic. When we first moved in, people warned us that we would be slipping and sliding on marble bathroom floors. Knock on wood, no one has ever slipped on the bathroom floors. We've been mindful to not put down polishes that are meant for wall or counter marble. Polishes for floors must say floor on it. I am always worried about stepping out of the bathtub as it is rather a high ledge to get to the floor. I never step onto the marble, always onto the rug. That's our marble story.

olychick, thank you for taking a look. :) I'm relieved to hear you think a white shower pan is best. I am heading out now to find porcelain marble look tiles for the shower walls to pick up the gray as you suggested. I want a shiny finish to the walls. Tell me if you think that's a misstep. I am avoiding marble as I have a marble topped vanity now that is pock marked with etchings. As far as seeing myself in the vanity, yes, I think I will be able to do so. I was planning on a black framed mirror spanning the vanity. My current vanity is 32 1/4" high (as will be the new vanity) and when seated on my vanity stool my reflection is seen up to my chest. The only issue currently is that my knees are pressed against drawers. I failed to mention that I was thinking of using absolute black granite for the vanity top for two reasons: one being cost and the other being to avoid etching. Will doing so deviate too much from my inspiration? Lastly, I had the idea of applying pieces of beveled mirror framed by black molding floor to ceiling along the back wall and continuing behind the toilet (similar to this only floor to ceiling with the exception of base molding & crown): [Traditional Bathroom[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-bathroom-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_712~s_2107) by Northbrook Architects & Building Designers Michael A. Menn Thoughts? Suggestions? Thank you for reading this far. :)

You mean waterproofing PRIOR to installation of tile as well as during/after install? Yes, you have to build and waterproof the shower before a single tile is installed. Tile and grout are not waterproof, they are just the part that you see. Not a pro here, but to educate myself (after a shower disaster, and in order to make a better hiring decision when searching for new pro to fix bathroom), I read the shower chapters of the TCNA handbook, read waterproofing threads on this forum and the John Bridge forum, and checked out DIY books from the library. I wasn't intending to DIY, but it was very helpful to learn what building a waterproof shower really requires. There's a lot of bad info out there, so don't go digging around in YouTube videos, with one exception - I watched Sal DiBlasi's videos. I think he has another site with more info on it, but I haven't gone on there lately. Doing some research before talking to contractors will help you make a better hiring decision. You can order a downloadable version of the handbook for less than $40: https://www.tcnatile.com/products-and-services/publications/218-english-publications/188-handbook.html You can search for Sal's videos online: Sal DiBlasi, Elite-tile Company, in the Boston North Shore area. After you educate yourself, start interviewing contractors (not sure if you want a GC or if you are going to directly interview tile professionals). Ask this question: "How do you build a shower?" For your entertainment here is a story that illustates how hard it can be to find an excellent tile pro, and how vulnerable people are to GCs' hiring decisions regarding subs. When you do find an experienced and qualified tile pro, understand that on average a correctly built and waterproofed shower will be several thousands of dollars. Don't skimp on this by hiring an unqualified person. The chances of a leaky shower is far too great a risk. https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5725013/what-to-do-when-a-project-goes-completely-south#n=28 In my case, I hired a very expensive GC, who then hired a very cheap and unqualified tile installer. If you hire a GC, you need to find a way to ensure that he/she doesn't cheap out on the tile pro to increase their profit. I haven't found a way to do that yet. The only 2 projects where I had to hire a GC, they did this and it caused big problems. So, if you hire a GC, have an honest talk with them about who they are going to hire to build your shower. The tile pro is the most important sub that will be involved in your bathroom reno. The tile pro is the one who is in charge of building the whole shower. Sometimes a framer will frame the shower, but the tile po is ultimately responsible for the whole thing. Don't let a GC just tell you the person is qualified; you need to see that tile pro's prior work and ask them the question "How do you build a shower?" and here his answer for yourself.