Expectations for dating a man with kids- when is it too much?
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Comments (67)Things not looking great again. Yesterday we discovered that 2 of our 3 new Totos arrived broken. I guess it's not that big a deal as they will be replaced, but now we have to wait again for new ones. We had a meeting with the GC on Tuesday night to discuss how things are going. It didn't go well. He says that I am nice to the whole crew, but not to him and that's why he barely comes to the house. He said the whole crew had noticed 'how I treat him' and that in 10 years of business he has never had this problem before. So now I feel uncomfortable in my own home. Now I'm wondering if it's me that's the problem. He called the following day to apologize for how he spoke to me, but I really don't much want to talk to him at all any more. He is asking us to eat a lot of extra expense (including most of the $940 Home Depot bill) because of all the 'extras' he has done including 'thousands' in additional plumbing work for free (?). He says we can go over the contract again but it will end up costing us thousands because he will charge for all the extras he's done. We appear to now be paying for wiring and other items I had no idea would be on the list. I thought he was paying for behind the walls stuff and we were paying for the 'pretty' stuff (including paint, but wiring??). My husband has stepped in to talk to him and yet I don't feel satisfied with that arrangement either. GC was meant to go to Home Depot for $80 worth of unidentified stuff (paid for by us) and when the Home Depot person called for our cc number (which GC no longer has) it was for $175. For 'wiring and boxes'. Huh? The problem is I just don't trust him and I guess the GC feels that and is (understandably) offended by it. But when we ask for receipts he flashes them at us and then says he needs them back. It's like the Hone Depot receipt debacle all over again. But we DO have extra issues that SHOULD be resulting in extra charges - the problem is getting numbers out of him for the extra issues is tough. So our sunroom leak issues and retiling (over the existing) bathroom floor are costing an additional $2400 on top of the $940 which he owed us from the Home Depot thing, but we didn't know that until he's ripped out carpeting and the place is a disgusting mess and we have no choice really but to do the work. I just wish he would tell us what this stuff would cost before starting it! I don't know what to do at this point. I feel like every time we question something he has a million explanations and excuses which never really tell you anything. He talks a mile a minute and you can't get a word in edgewise. I know we should be paying for the unexpected stuff, but the way it happens is so backwards and confusing to me and I end up wondering what is going on. Why for example have we paid $500 for insulation product as part of the contract as well as $814 in insulation as part of that Home Depot bill (that's NOT part of his $940 building materials which was all dry wall) and yet he says the remainder of the insulation in rolls downstairs isn't ours. It's his? He says we have to eat the $500 for insulation that was in the contract because he underbid the installation part of insulating and because we owe him so muc for the extra plumbing (which he hadn't mentioned before and we thought was included). Another example. He ran wiring for the baby's room high hats and ceiling fan. Told me the switch was slightly off center and not to straighten it or it might short. A couple of days later it stopped working. He says it's a coincidence and the wiring must have been 'chewed by rats or squirrels' and that it's an unforeseen issue. this seems like a remarkable coincidence to me. I thought if we contracted that he was installing 4 recessed lights and a fan, that meant they should work? The house has a newer panel with a ton of electric amps, but I guess that doesn't mean no problems. Maybe we're being unreasonable in our expectations. Apparently most people around here tell him to go ahead and fix unforeseen issues and just send them a bill. It's very possible as there's a lot of money around here. But we would like to know what things will cost in advance. He seems to take this as a personal insult. :( DH thinks he's on cocaine. I would not be surprised. I am exhausted and this has turned into a book. Sorry. Just needed to vent again....See MoreWHen does it become too dangerous for the kids?
Comments (37)We went thru something similar. DH and I have been together 7 years, married 6. When we first started dating BM tried to manipulate me any way she could. She apparently didn't realize that I knew that she and DH had been divorced for 6 years at that point. I tried to remain cordial with her even though some of the things I saw and heard from SD made my skin crawl. I saw bruises on SD and she ALWAYS had an excuse. DH and BM had joint custody, with BM having physical custody and DH having liberal vistitation. She controlled EVERYTHING......she even denied him to right to see his daughter on multiple occaisions. Now, when I started dating DH BM had just moved back into the area after being mentally committed for the 2nd time (suicide threat again). DH had gotten emergency custody from the court and BM's hubby had gotten custody of their children. DH was single and did not believe that he could give SD what she needed so when BM came back crying that she had changed, blah, blah, blah he believed her and let SD go back (I think due to the fact that he trusted BM's hubby to keep her straight). We watched BM spiral down the hole yet again over the next 3 years. DH kept saying "don't do anything yet - it's just a matter of time". Even when SD was missing school to take care of her siblings because BM was out partying all night DH said not to do anything. We both knew something big was about to happen - we KNOW her cycles. He wanted to make sure that when something happened, it would make the court stand up and take notice. Finally, 3 years later we got a phone call from BM's hubby. He was kicking her out and wanted us to know so we didn't bring SD back there (we had her for summer vacation and it was the day we were supposed to take her back to BM). I was on one phone, DH was on the other phone and DH told BM's DH that he was done playing games and he was going to court the next day. We get a phone call later in the day from BM's DH saying they just had her committed because she "threatened suicide" again and that she could be released in a few hours according to the cops (depending on what happened at the hospital). I immediately called my mom, had her drive 50 miles 1 way and pick up SD, just in case BM decided to pay us a visit. BM had no clue where my parents live and I knew she would be safe because my father would be home with her and would never let BM near SD. We called DH's mom and step-dad and had them come over so we could figure out what to do. We decided to go to court and the next day we went to my parents and picked up SD. We explained that BM was sick and that SD was going to live with us for a while. Well, 1st mistake was not telling SD the truth because she found out from one of her friends about 2 days later and HATED us. She was 12, we were trying to do what was right. About 4 weeks later BM was awarded supervised visitation and DH and I were appointed the "supervisors" by the court. Oh boy was that fun - NOT! The first thing BM did was walk in to McDonalds and take SD outside. So we went back to court. BM was ordered to attend visitation at the mall in the food court. Again, we were named supervisors. Every Saturday we got to go to the mall and spend 3 hours sitting in the food court waiting for BM, who was supposed to be sitting in the food court with SD but would take her to stores in the mall to hide out from us so she could mentally body-slam SD. I think she brought SD's siblings 3 times in 3 months so she could see them. DH just kept saying "let her do it, she's just hurting herself". Finally the trial started. It was UGLY. I have never seen anything like it in my life. The judge ordered that BM could now have unsupervised visitation based on a letter from BM's dr. Stipulations were a specific pickup place and times, not to leave the county and phone contact with DH while SD was there. Of course, when it was time for DH to call SD, he was told "she wasn't there" or "she was busy". We waited 4 months for the court's decision. Finally, Father's Day weekend it came. DH was awarded full custody. Then it was back to court again for the visitation agreement. The judge stated in the custody order that DH was too "rigid" with BM so we made the agreement liberal, but specific. She played games with that as well. We just kept getting the proof we needed. 3 months later I got a phone call at work saying BM was in her front yard with a .22 threatening to shoot a "friend" of hers. I called DH and let him know. He went to court and filed to have supervised visitation reinstated. A week later she went to DH's work and told him a fabricated story about being raped (she had no clue that the day before her neighbors had called me at work yet again and told me that 3 of her "friends" were at her house beating her up in the front yard). By the end of the week DSS was knocking on her door, they had been tipped off by someone. 4 days later she left the state with her 2 youngest in tow. 3 weeks after that BM's DH left the state to meet her with their 2 oldest. Again, back to court for a new visitation agreement. She's done nothing but play games with the new agreement. Booking SD's flights without the court ordered accompanied minor fee paid (we won't put SD on the plane), moving and not keeping us apprised of her address and phone number (she gave us the address of the post office as her address and got mad when we refused to let SD visit without her ACTUAL address), not calling when she is ordered (calling when she knows SD won't be home). SD is now 15. Last summer SD went for her "28 day" visit. DH let her go 2 days early so she could go to a concert she wanted to see. DH got a phone call from SD about 13 days into her visit telling him she was in an airport (she didn't know where) and he needed to pick her up at a certain time. He picked her up and asked why she was home already. She said she told BM she wanted to come home and BM sent her home. No phone call to DH or anything, just put her on a plane (no unaccompanied minor airfare again) and shipped her home. Later it came out that Bm had been smoking pot constantly around SD, gave SD a joint and a 6 pack for her 15th birthday and SD wanted to come home. We also found out that BM had taken SD and 2 of her friends to get tattooed. 14 yo girls and she got them tattooed! DH went back to court. BM didn't show. Visitation is SUSPENDED! BM claims she never received the notice of the hearing, she has split from her DH and has 3 of the kids with her - god knows where. She calls SD constantly and is currently working on trying to get info on us to go back to court to get visitation back. She doesn't want to come back here because she thinks we will have her arrested for child endangerment, which we will. She's trying to buy SD off and keeps using her siblings to make her feel bad. The woman is just evil and won't give up....See MoreHusband expects me to leave my money to all kids equally.
Comments (30)Hi everyone. This is the original Dalda nearly 7 years later. Amazing things happen when you have an excellent lawyer who puts things in motion and types up divorce papers under 48 hours. I was finally able to get a divorce. I sent my stepbrother, his wife and nibling on a 6 months full paid vacation. He's too busy, so he took one month off each year to visit each continent except the two poles. LoL. I have set up a educational trust fund for nibling. So nibling can study whatever and wherever nibling wants. Stepbrother is extremely well off on his own, and did not want or need it. But he took care of my lovely mother and wonderful stepfather for years. My stepfathers best friend was my lawyer, stepfather was the man who got down on one knee at 60 years to me and my sister and asked our consent to become family. He knew everything about the inheritance even about the extra millions and kept mumm and guided me, mentored me. Bless him. As for my divorce, ex-H contested it, it dragged on for 8 months, he had a grandchild. Without him being in contact with me or dear daughter for 4 months, we were invited to the birth of the child via a call and text. I promptly congratulated and sent a gift. Then continuously for 2 months me and daughter were bombarded with a few hundred photos of the child. Daughter was completely abandoned by him, distraught and blocked him on all media. Step kids did not remove their possessions even after written notice, I had to pack all their stuff and delivered it to their respective residents via courier service. With proof of delivery and acceptance. I must mention here that ex-h in the end was physically abusive to me. For years I was told I'm too dumb to do a PhD, I wouldn't be able to cope with the family and studies and work. I did not know that he had been funneling money from my account to his for 16 years. He was mentally abusive, which I didn't understand then. But during my daughters therapy sessions I broke down and discussed myself with the therapist and they pointed out exactly how I was being manipulated and brainwashed for 16 years into being under his thumb. They sued me for financial support, mental torture abuse, they WANTED 1 million of the 2 my parents left me, my family heirlooms, access to my house and lost spectacularly. I must write one line from the judges verdict, it went somewhat like this, it seems unfortunate that Mr. X and two of your children have been consumed by greed. You have failed to show one valid reason why you should be granted one cent. As for Mr. X, you should be ashamed as you have forgotten that you have another 15 year old daughter. Daughter and I faced a lot of vile words, threats from ex. He went to her school and tried to force her to sign papers. Tried to make her understand how and why she should share her good windfall. On my 40th birthday, I had a call and had to urgently visit my father's lawyer, telling a shocked and crying me that Instead of 2 million, my inheritance came up to 18 million in total. As my father bless him, left everything he had to me and my sister a few years later, which unknown to us was left to us to be given when we reach 40. I heard from ex-in laws that they flipped. In anger stepdaughter screamed, and broke stuff, ex ranted for days how he should have just sucked up and left his adult kids be, his life would be so much better. Ex got married twice. Him and his son sued me again, and lost, Spectacularly again. At 16 daughter won a full scholarship (she has mama's brains) and went on to an ivy league college with 4 GPA. She's 20 and blooming. With my consent she has set up a trust fund for anonymous merit scholarships for underprivileged students, we also support a local women's shelter for abused women and children. I rented out my house, which was too huge for only two people and moved to a town near her college, was a able to get a much better job in my field, which I did not know I was capable of, went on to do my PhD and Post Doctorate on full merit scholarship, I'm still doing it, it is extremely hard work. And two years later of my divorce I met a wonderful man through my work, my daughter and his daughter. Yes, it's weird. We took it slow, we have been married for two years now. Smooth sailing so far. We both have similar experience with exs and near same financial backgrounds, education. I must mention my amazing stepdaughter gave near same amount to the scholarship fund for underprivileged children from her own business. She has been a positive influence on daughter and guide her like my brother did me and my sister, like a protective wing. We agreed on an airtight prenup. Life is and can be bliss if you have the guts to leave your abusive and greedy mooching partner....See MoreAm I expecting too much???? ('new' floor photos)
Comments (23)Thanks for all the sympathy everyone - I know you all know how I feel :) Kateskouros: that's funny, but looking at it, it does seem as if ice skates would make those scratches - haha! There's little ice skating around here right now though since it's in the 80's and 90's, so I guess they'll have to come up with another excuse :) Kat: I know you realize exactly how I feel since you've heard all my rantings through email :) Maybe I'll have some GOOD news eventually! Remodelfla: yes, we've decided that it practically has to be a sanding issue. The scratches are hard to describe and actually look a bit different in person than in the photos. The kitchen photos do look as if the scratches were sunken in, therefore maybe didn't take the stain, but in person look a bit raised - I know that sounds crazy, and it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen!! I don't know much about woodworking and definitely not refinishing floors other than what I've read, but we're wondering if the reason it became so apparent once the poly was down is due to the waterbased Bona opening the grain of the wood - does that even sound possible?? I posted a question on the floor forum but have gotten no replies - it doesn't seem to be very active compared to this one! Anyway, I'm putting one more photo below of the scratch in the bedroom (which we KNOW was there before the sanding started) because it does look slightly more as if it's raised. Picture a scar - you know how once scar tissue forms, there's a raised area. That's kind of what it looks like in person! I have no idea why the one in the kitchen looks as if there's no stain at all because it does have some on it - but the more they tried to "fix" the worse it became. Desertsteph: we saw the floors after every process dried, so we first saw the stain and there were no scratches, then one coat of poly, and that's the odd thing I was referring to above - only after approx. the second coat of poly did the scratches emerge. So I saw the floors one morning when I was leaving for work, and then we didn't go up until later that evening when the poly dried. We IMMEDIATELY noticed that and contacted the floor company. The "coordinator/scheduler" said that he was out of town, but would send the guys over to look at it the next day. That's when everyone said they had no idea how it could have happened but it couldn't possibly be from their equipment. So...we began investigating and found everything I wrote above to Remodelfla. We haven't moved anything back in and weren't planning to for several days just to make sure we gave the floors plenty of time to "cure" or whatever. Unfortunately, everything is in storage which we are also paying for much longer now! Seaglass7: thanks for agreeing that it's unbelievable that the company would try to blame us for the scratches and that I'm not just being picky! I was honestly beginning to question whether we were just expecting way too much and if anyone else would think it looked fine (as the floor company tried to say!). We asked them if since they think it looks fine, if they are OK with us posting photos everywhere as a reference for them - see what they say about that - haha! Rubyfig: we do know that the refrigerator was pulled across the floor, but it was well BEFORE the floor company started. And we didn't worry about the fact that we could see scratches in the new unfinished wood because we thought they would be sanded out!!! And none of the appliances were moved after the floor company started - they simply stained around them. It would have been impossible to move the huge refrigerator and get it back in without completely messing up the floors after finished, so we just elected to stain around it. Not the best option, but oh well. Lukkiirish: Yep, that's the "profesisonals" we were lucky enough to choose. You'd never believe this company has been around for at least 5-10 years and isn't just some one-man operation with a hand sander or something - haha! They seemed fine until we had issues - that's when you find out what companies are TRULY like! I'm beginning to REALLY regret not going with prefinished :) Floor in bedroom - scratch corresponds to one that was there BEFORE sanding. It was a fairly deep scratch made by the bed which we just ignored knowing that we'd eventually refinish them - little did we know we'd have the scratch forever - haha:...See More- 8 years ago
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