Ventura Evacuated due to Wildfire, Am Worried about Jeri and Clay
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Comments (24)There are other things to consider other than the amount of water like what kind of soil do you have ? It's possible that the water drains right through and doesn't really water the rose. Do you mulch your roses ? Do you have a lot of companion plants near the roses competing for water ? I was able to view your photos by copying the link you provided and pasting them into my browser (FF) and clicking the arrow to go to the photo. Were the photos taken at the same time of year ? Many roses age quicker and often lose petelage in higher temps. So if the first photo was taken in the cooler temps of spring and the second photo was taken mid-summer, the blooms could look quite different. Looking at the foliage in the first and second photos, the plant does not appear to be water stressed. Also, when you do a hard prune ... cut back hard after the first flush ... the plant has to put in more energy regrowing plant before it puts energy into blooms. If you just dead head the spent blooms, it doesn't set the plant back as much. Altho' some people might disagree with this because in their climates and gardens, summer pruning does not slow the plant down. There are so many different variables that can impact your roses besides just the amount of water. I live in an area where we get higher summer temps than you mentioned above and garden in clay soil. I do a deep watering at least once a week and what I call a "feeder root watering" mid-week. The feeder roots of a rose are near the surface of the soil .. within about 6" of the top of the soil. Keeping them from drying out truly helps the plant during periods of high temps. You can experiment by doing some additonal hand watering on your roses before giving up completely on the automatic watering system and see if that makes a difference. Good luck with your roses. Smiles, Lyn...See MoreHow Many "Non-Performers" Does Your Garden Have?
Comments (72)What an interesting and informative thread. Strawberry, I am particularly interested in your assertion that pine mulch is useful for holding water. I have a rose bed in my front yard that is in direct sun all day. It also sits on the highest site in the yard and is pretty much sand and gravel underneath. I dug the bed 11 years ago and completely filled it with triple mix, which is equal parts soil, peat and manure, to 24 inches. I planted 18 roses as well as perenials such as Delphiniums and Salvias in the bed. That bed was a show stopper for the first nine years when there was lots of rain, including heavy thunderstorms each summer. People would frequently stop to smell the roses and tell me how much they enjoyed walking by that bed. Well the last two summers have been very hot and record breaking dry. Last summer was an official drought with only three days of precipitation between June and September. Many of the roses died outright, the rest declined to mere sticks barely hanging on in spite of my daily watering which was arduous, expensive and obviously a waste of water. When I dug up a couple of the dead roses in late summer I noted that the peat fibres and soil were bone dry, even with regular watering. The roses that succumbed were varieties that had not done well even in cooler years. The hot sun was litterally baking the surface of the bed in spite of heavy surface mulch. The daily dose of water was evaporating from the surface and obviously percolating right through the topsoil, all 2 feet of it, and draining through the gravel below. I had already decided to dig the whole thing up this spring and put in new triple mix and manure. With your insite into composted pine mulch and its water retaining properties, I think I will add a good portion of that as well. As gardeners, we constantly must adapt to changing conditions. The climate in my garden has changed drastically in the past two years, who knows if the change is permanent or an anomally. Hopefully, I can find a way to increase the water holding capacity in that bed and restore it to its former health and glory. Perhaps a good dose of composted pine mulch and composted manure layered deep on the bottom of the bed will help. Good thread Ingrid. Thanks for the discussion everyone. Cheeers, Rick Here is a link that might be useful: The Myth of Pretty Mulch - Washington State Universtiy...See MoreLoving This Week's Weather?
Comments (19)Our chance of rain was 100% too and it rained part of the night and most of the day, on and off, but only really light rain most of the time, so the rain gauge in the garden only has accumulated 0.40" so far. Of course, this rain erased all the progress we'd made towards drying up, and we have rain in the forecast for some portion of every day through at least Monday. I hate to complain about getting rain, so I'll just whine about how I wish it would give us one dry week for planting, and then it can rain all it wants. I got sunburned working outside for most of the day on both Monday and Tuesday, so I guess I won't have to worry about sunshine or sunburn for a while anyway. We mowed, too, Robert, until some piece on the lawn tractor broke (it is 13 years old so I am surprised this doesn't happen more often than it does), leaving us with half a mowed lawn. All the front pasture including the bar ditch and frontage along the roadway did get mowed, though, and I expect the part Tim ordered online will arrive and be installed and we still won't be dry enough again to finish the mowing. I had scooped up all the decomposed mulch out of three pathways onto the adjacent beds, and then replaced the compost with new, fresh mulch on two of the three beds before it was time to go inside to make and eat dinner last night. Those paths are usable today, but the one I didn't get mulched is just one big long puddle. The asparagus is loving this weather and we're having asparagus for dinner tonight. I have a lovely garden so far, it is just that most of it is still sitting in containers in the greenhouse. The onions and taters are getting kind of lonely out in the garden alone. While pulling winter weeds from the paths and beds, I've been finding lots of grubs and some caterpillar type worms. I toss the grubs on the compost pile as many of them mature to ground beetles that are helpful in the garden, but I feed the caterpillar type worms to the chickens. Maybe I can dig up and dispose of all the cutworms before they get a chance to do any cutting. Larry, Last week I tilled the onion bed when it was, technically, too wet to till and it all worked out just fine. I got the onions planted and that bed has enough organic matter in it that the soil didn't turn into big chunks of clay dirt clods. It also helped the upper few inches of that soil dry out. Yesterday morning it looked a little too dry, but I ignored it since our forecast included rain that was supposed to start falling last night (and did). Kim, I barely plan at all any more except in the most general of terms because the weather usually determines what goes where no matter what sort of prior plans I've made. You not only have to be flexible and patient, but also very resourceful. Gardening is never as easy in real life as it seems like it should be. We just change, adapt our plans, bend over backwards to get things done, jump through hoops to meet our goals, and then people wonder why gardening can be so exhausting! (grin) It really wears us out. You were in Collinsville, and it was a muddy mess, and yesterday we were in Muenster and St. Jo and they were a muddy mess too, but then it was a pretty drive out of St. Jo and along the river road and back across the Tayovayas Bridge to the western end of Love County. I enjoyed looking at all the fruit trees busting out into bloom everywhere, and we saw deer and wild turkeys, and also skunks (but who wants to see a skunk?). Our yard is a muddy mess today and any plans I had made for the rest of the week have flown out the window. I walked outside with one of our cats a minute ago and nearly got trampled by deer that were standing near the back door. Apparently they wanted to complain that I hadn't put out any cracked corn for the doves so they had nothing to steal today. Rain even makes the wildlife cranky....See MoreOT: Santa Rosa/Sonoma Area Fires --
Comments (86)It has been very very hazy here for the past week, and they say that it is actually smoke from the Southern CA fires! We are 400 miles away. It is supposed to be dry and windy here for the next few days, and we have not had any rain for 3-4 weeks. Much of the entire area around SF Bay is under a "fire watch". Berkeley (which last burned in the 1920s - my grandmother used to tell me about it) has asked everyone who lives in the wooded hills (just like the Oakland hills which burned a few years ago - steep, narrow windy roads) to park their cars in garages of otherwise off the streets, so that fire equipment can use the streets if necessary. They are serious - it is scary. Jackie...See More- 6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked portlandmysteryrose
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