I have 6 WPs & while they look similar, mine have darker foliage & the buds are more red than pink. Of course it could be differences in soil & climate. I love this rose & ordered 3 originally & then ordered 3 more when I saw how well they performed.

I’ll look at mine and take a picture for you tomorrow morning, Vape. Mine is young, and has only been in the ground for about a month, if that. Lisa

Thank u guys! Mine is obviously young; I just took it out of it's pop bottle recently and was surprised by the buds. Let me know if you need more pics of foliage.

I vote not WP. My WP has yellow stamens and is more Pom-Pom like. The leaves are darker and maybe a little thicker? Yours really looks more like my CS than WP for sure.

Not an ideal bloom below since it has so few Petals but you can see the stamens.

Here’s my White Pet.

I do have Clotilde Soupert right next to White Pet, so I can take photos of both. To me the dead giveaway is those dark pink buds that White Pet has. I just need a few more sips of coffee and to get dressed before I take more pictures.(When I get up on my slope the nextdoor neighbor can see me in my robe:) Lisa

Yes. White Pets buds are very pink but also very tight.

The petal shape is different on WP than in your mystery cutting.

Yes, I would tend to agree with Suncoast. I think yours looks more like CS. Pictures coming soon. Lisa

Thank you. I agree entirely that it's not WP, but I can see why it's a classic. However, your two examples are so different from one another. Is the bush form of CS fragrant? I have the climbing version from ARE and it was very fragrant from the get go. This cutting has none to speak of. I'll have to have a closer look at the leaves on my climber. I had a brainstorm as I was falling asleep last night, but forgot it by the morning. Lisa, you don't have to go trudging up that hill for me unless it gives you pleasure. That's too much work for this little ID.

My CS was supposed to be the bush version but it throws long canes and had a CS Cl. tag under it when I transplanted it, so I can't say for sure who I have yet. The very first flowers were not very fragrant but I recall they had some. Now, she is very fragrant -whichever version she is.

Hmmmm... I know I took a cutting of my CS, but that wasn't too long ago. However, my The Fairy cutting was taken around the same time and it's already bloomed. It could be something else, so I'll check my notes. Probably NOT Marie Pavie as I've read that one is also very fragrant.

Does anyone have really good sytem for marking their cuttings? I'm hoping I'll recognize a few I took such as New Dawn, but they are all so confused.BTW, I have a really great old clone of ND that's probably from about the time it was first released if anyone would like cuttings.

Oh Vap, I am such a dingbat! I completely forgot to go back and take more pictures after I got dressed. When I finally DID remember, I saw something that needed attention along the way, and became totally sidetracked. Now it’s dark:( Sorry, I’m VERY easily distracted. I will try again tomorrow morning, and both White Pet and Clotilde Soupert are near the bottom of my slope. Taking some pictures for you is no problem, IF I can stay on task. Sorry, I’m awful sometimes. Lisa

LoL!!! Ur not the only one! That's me to a "t"!

Vapor , I use a paint pen. They don't fade like a sharpie in the sun. When I do my cuttings I am using clear cups so I wrote on the cup and cross it out as I reuse it . I cannot have tags as I have a toddler who is drawn to pulling them out for finishes.

Wish I had room for a new dawn.. do you have marie pavie also ? Maybe next spring we could do a trade. I do have some babies right now but they are fragile I think.

Ok, finally took more pictures this morning. First of White Pet.

Then of Clotilde Soupert the bush form. Mine is a little steressed from being planted out recently and then some very hot and dry temps came along.

Thank you, Lisa!!!! Great pictures of the leaves. Hmmm. It looks like I'll have to wait a bit and observe its growth habit, not having recalled seeing the bush form anywhere. My notes say I only took a cutting of Cl CS. in September from a branch that broke while planting it. I could have "spaced out" and not recorded it, but it's a ritual for me every night so probably unlikely. It seems like further investigation is always required; at least we've eliminated WP!

Can you think of any other older roses that look similar?

LL, I don't have MP or MD, but would like them since they're meant to have a wafting fragrance. If you can't fit in ND, perhaps you'd like Viking Queen? She is similar in growth habit to ND, but purportedly not as lusty. Her gorgeous blooms set on perfect foliage last for a very long time on the bush and fall off with gentle nudging. Plus, the fragrance is divine!!! In fact, I'm now wondering why I haven't taken cuttings for myself!!! (I think you've seen my list of future and present offerings over at the Rose P&E Forum. Feel free to ask.)

Does it look anything like your Yvonne Rabier, Vap? Lisa

Good thought and great memory, Lisa, but unfortunately not. : ( Yvonne has very globular white blooms with just a dusting of pink on the buds, while fully exposing her beautiful yellow stamens when open. Most notably, she has a STRONG luscious fragrance that was apparent from the first flower. The main difference, however, is her leaves, which are elongated, of the type DA calls "leander". I haven't a clue where that name came from, although on another thread someone said it may be a Gallica? characteristic, if I remember that right.

I'm wondering if I did take a bush form cutting and it just didn't express the scent on these first flowers. I hate waiting!!!