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daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
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Comments (55)Corrigan: "It is not true, however, that the polio vaccine or any other vaccine was ever tested on millions of people before it was approved." The clinical study for Salk's vaccine alone had 440,000 children given the vaccine, 210,000 given a placebo, and 1.2 million in the control group. Koprowski's large-scale field trials involved over 7 million children in poland. If you count the Soviet Union's immunization campaign, whose results they studied and which helped confirm the validity of it to the rest of the world, Sabin's vaccine's "trials" involved tens of millions. http://www.polio.info/polio-eradication/front/templates/index.jsp?siteCode=POLIO&codeRubrique=34&lang=EN Yet, Salk's was but one vaccine. What I said was indeed accurate. There were millions involved in the clinical trials of polio vaccines. You're right that vaccines *usually* don't have such a large test size, but polio was an exception. "As far as the viral cause of polio, well, yes, but what triggers the paralysis? Polio was endemic before the introduction of the vaccine. Everyone was infected by early childhood. And yet poliomyelitis was rare before the modern age." That's because the virus is transmitted through the fecal-oral route -- with a twist. Like how chicken pox is less virulent the younger you are infected, the same is true with polio. The oldest clear reference to poliomyelitis is in a 3,000 year old Egyptian stele. Historically, due to poor sanitation (which led to outbreaks of many diseases, like cholera), almost every infant would be exposed with poliovirus. If it was symptomatic, they simply died, without the cause ever being revealed. If it wasn't symptomatic, they were immune for the rest of their life. However when, to combat various other plagues, modern sanitation began to be used (so fecal waste wasn't dumped into the same water that people would drink), people weren't exposed to polio as infants. When they were exposed at older ages, then the problems arose. Those with the best health situations tended to be struck the worst; it became a disease of the affluent. Which is probably why so much money was poured into curing it, unlike, say, malaria (which still kills millions). :P There's absolutely no evidence that the rate of poliomyelitis compared to the rate of poliovirus infection in adults has ever changed significantly. As for the pesticide hypothesis, that particularly doesn't stand up to scrutiny. DDT wasn't even invented until '39, but the US had huge polio outbreaks before then. Remember FDR? :) H.L. Menken wrote about polio outbreaks happening virtually every summer in Baltimore in the late 1800s. It's illogical, too. Poliovirus progressing into poliomyelitis involves how readily the virus passes the brain-blood barrier. While chemicals that pass the brain-blood barrier are few, even fewer are the chemicals which alter how well *other* things pass through the barrier....See Morefirst all the rain.....now heat and humidity!
Comments (22)I am truly sorry that so many of you in northern zones are experiencing this hot and humid weather. I do hope it won't last long for you. It is fairly typical where I live although it is setting in a bit earlier than usual this year. We are about to have our hottest June on record. But from late May until late October here we can count on most days with temperatures in the high 90s and 100s, nights in the 80s, and humidity through the roof. Every summer I reach a point where I simply cannot keep up. It is too hot and miserable to work outdoors long enough to take care of it all. I have whined here before about how discouraging it is to watch everything roast and fry. Well, all these comments of yours are oddly reassuring for me. You see, I've wondered whether I was just being lazy when I throw up my hands and despair each summer. I look at all your garden photos and see the luscious color, the healthy plants and immaculate care you have taken and I cringe with shame when I see my own...browned at the edges, drooping sadly, too exhausted to make a show. Surely if I were a good gardener my borders would resemble the gorgeous ones to be seen here. However...your comments here suggest that my own summer misery is not a personal failing so much as a predictable reaction to extreme conditions. Perhaps I am normal after all! I'll take that comfort and thank you!...See MoreRain, rain, go away....
Comments (4)Rain rain don't go away! RAIN rain joyous gentle cool rains! 36 hrs nonstop rain. Yes I'm hapHapHAPPY for the rain. We have been in drought conditions for so long even the rains of Fay (27+ inches) last year didn't make up for the water deficit. We've had water restrictions for irrigating the lawn and I don't care where you live grass is not supposed to crunch underfoot and flowers should bloom not fall over in heat exhaustion and thirst. Sink holes are opening up from the collapsed aqua firs. After a week of above normal temps (in the 90s)and above normal humidity (54%) for this time of year the cool breezes are just wonderful and the rain is a delight. It will be over tomorrow and we'll have some tropical weather again before the heat starts in earnest. Florida is the tropics. We are supposed to get rain in the tropics. In the desert it don't rain. If you want no rain you should live in the desert not the tropics. CT...See MoreHot, Humid & on/off Rain - Anxiety for Jades & other succulents
Comments (12)Palmsandsnow - I hear you on messing up the plant watering schedule. I usually just bring indoors the plants that have signs of yellowing leaves and just want to dry out instead of getting rained on again. I do love rainwater though, much better than the treated tap water with salts and chlorine. Ewwmayo - I like the weather station! The humidity is insane.... it's about 70% here. I hope it's cooled down for you. I noticed the white ceiling panels that you use to put your pots on.... did you pay about $15? I've seen them at Home Depot & Lowes, they seem expensive for just plastic.... so I thought I'd wait to look at the bargain type stores. Beautiful cluster of C. Arborescens :)Southerndraw - Sorry to hear! Sounds like your plants need fast drainage. Hookilau - I hope your plants are doing well, please update after the heat wave. That reminds me, I wanted to buy pumice as I heard it gives lots of nutrients to the plants.... but my local garden shop didn't have it..... I need to look online. The windows are crowded... She still managed to squeeze in... (( there's an open area for the cats in the middle of the bay window! )) Yesterday afternoon, got a few good downpours, wind.... and thunder overhead. Last night also had several t-storms. The outside plants look OK so far. This morning.... They have a few hours to dry off and then another t-storm is expected. -Nancy...See More
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9