Would you put a prep sink here?
Jen Hans
6 years ago
Wondering if putting a prep sink here would be outrageous. In all honesty we don't follow the "prep, cook, cleanup" zones, and are just looking for a secondary sink that we can use to not get in the way of the other large sink (needing to get something wet, draining pasta, etc). So it is OK if it doesn't quite meet the "zone" requirements. Most of our prepping will be done to the right of the sink, so that we can talk to the "audience" at the island. We use a good mix of the oven, range, and electric cooking machines that will be in the appliance garage.
I would consider removing the pull out pantry to the left of the ovens if that would make or break anything. There is 36" between the ovens and range, and between the range and cabinets to the right of the range. There is 30" to the right of the large sink. The island is 48" wide.
Looking for pros and cons to that location. We are a two person cooking household with 2 small children.
Other location or layout suggestions welcome, BUT appliance garage is a must, sink must stay in same approximate location, island must seat 4+.
P.s. I know most of you do not like 3D drawings. I do not have a current 2D drawing. SORRY!
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numbersjunkie
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Comments (62)This latest, new plan isn't bad at all, but I think the old hutch is prettier. I agree with Sweeby on the overthinking thing, specifically about the part where you're wondering about foci and symmetry. Let's leave the analytic geometry in the schoolroom. ;) What you're saying about things to focus on is that your kitchen is going to be so stinkin' gorgeous that everywhere someone looks will be a beautiful prospect? Try opening a thread on that problem and see if you get any sympathy. (Sorry, couldn't help teasing... I do know what you mean, but in a space where people really do face in all kinds of different directions it's a non-issue.) As to the symmetry, the enforced assymetry of the large, different color hutch and the narrow white toasterish thing helps to offset the enforced symmetry you have elsewhere and make the space more organic and less mathematical. (Well, organic is really mathematical too, Fibonacci style, but I'm not about to start doing numerology on your hutches...) Re how much stuff you have: There's one of those corollaries to Murphy's Law that says, "The amount of stuff to be stored automatically expands to fill the space available in which to store it." Or else things get spaced out farther. My friends are always amazed at how much more I can fit neatly onto their shelves than they. Sometimes you have space and make beautiful arrangements. Sometimes you just get it all put away. ;) Re the overhugeness of the hutch. Toddlers. Toddlers inevitably become taller. They sometimes become very tall indeed. Perhaps when they're all at least moderately tall, like my mother did when we grew, you'll get "good" kitchen dishes. That you want to put in the hutch. Or you'll put the old, yucky ones in the hutch for your tall not-toddlers and their taller friends. Drawer storage is great for some people for dishes. For me it's a bit low, and I'm not even all that tall! My dishes are going up. So while you might not imagine it now, think about the ravenous hordes that will be blowing through your house in another ten years. When they've all left home, and you don't want to reach up for any daily use stuff, think about all the hand print dishes, my favorite grandma mugs, and lumpy first tries on a potting wheel that your kids and grandkids will bestow upon you, and which you'll want to see, but not necessarily in your front room, and that will make you happy but might not make you want to use them. Yep. If you really want the skinny hutch because of your love of skinny hutches, go for it. But I think your kitchen likes the big contrasting hutch....See MoreLayout ?'s ...do I need a prep sink and where to put mw?
Comments (8)I love having our mw on the lower shelf of an upper cabinet. The cabinet is extra deep to accomodate a standard mw. I figure this leaves my options open in the future--I won't have to be limited to a certain size, i.e one 12 or 13 in deep (plus technology is always changing so I'm hoping I'll be able to swap it out for something different if desired.) I think I've also seen upper cabinets that are of standard depth but have an extra deep lower shelf for the mw. If you are still considering a mw in a lower cubby, I strongly suggest setting one up on a low table or chair and try living with it for a while. We had a mw on a low table (not as low as an undercounter mw would be) in our old kitchen and dh and I both absolutely hated it. We found it difficult to use the buttons and to see into it to get food out or to clean the inside surfaces. Mw drawers are an option, but again, it seems like future choices get majorly limited by having very exact specifications. I think a mw in your breakfast area would work well. If you heat leftovers in the mw, it will be handy to have the fridge and mw close to each other. You might want to consider storing some mw safe dishes near the mw. The drawers under our mw stores our supply of pyrex mw dishes with lids (for fridge storage.) I knew when we were in our old kitchen that getting a prep sink was of highest priority. There were often log jams at the one (double bowl) sink. It was difficult for 2 of us to prep veggies at the same time and that always seemed to be the task I needed the most help with. It's something for you to consider. If you haven't felt the need for a prep sink up until now, maybe you don't need it. But if your kids might be spending more time helping in the kitchen in future years, it's something to consider. I also like having sinks at 2 spots in the kitchen because it helps clean up go faster when there are others helping. One person can hand wash large pots, plastic and wooden ware at the large sink while the other loads dishes into the dw at the small sink. The shelves above the mw are adjustable--another thing that adds versatility to future need. I am no layout expert, I only know what has worked for my particular situation. There are 2 things that we thought about during planning that I'm really happy about. 1. Placing the fridge so that it was close to the table while still being handy to the prep zone. I find it makes getting meals on and off the table much easier. Others can freely access the fridge without getting in the way of the cook. 2. Making clean up more efficient by placing the dw at the small sink. I mentioned this above--the main sink is used for all the hand washing of large pots, etc. and the small sink is used for processing dishes for the dw. Our large sink is in the prep/cook area and the smaller sink is placed so that it is convenient to the table and fridge (and others can use it without going into the cook/prep zone.)...See MoreWould you put a window cover here?
Comments (21)Hi chloenkitty, You have a beautiful home with wonderful views to the outside. As a Interior designer I would suggest to apply a soft, translucent fabric such as two sheer curtains for the window treatment to avoid obstructing the view. Additionally, if you want to tie the dining area with the kitchen you can add a topper with the same fabric you use for the kitchen window without applying anything to the small side windows. This suggestion coordinates well with the style of the overall space, such as crystal chandeliers, white cabinets, contemporary tufted dining seating, and contemporary furniture in the living area. With anything you decide to choose, please attach pictures of the final result. Good luck!...See MoreLayout addicts - need help deciding on whether to put in prep sink
Comments (14)If you cook a lot that spatters or use spray on vegetable oils you are setting yourself up for misery with the window. I would move the fridge to the right of the double ovens (losing that cabinet and put the stove where the fridge is. That would work better with a sink on the island. I like the idea of the island sink provided you get one big enough to be usable. You can get a cutting board to cover it-to look flush when not in use. (There is even a push down faucet if you really want everything flush but you have to devote more space to the sink area, not woth it in my opinion.) Are there two cooks or just one? If two a corner sink would give both a landing area, if one, then there should be a landing area on both sides. How big is the island? Are there other cabinets in this room on another wall?...See More
Fori
6 years agoUser
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoJen Hans
6 years ago
ck_squared
6 years ago
cpartist
6 years ago
Sammy
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoNothing Left to Say
6 years agoI couldn't fit a second sink into my ktichen so I went with a kohler stages 45 and two faucets. It worked (we have since moved) really well for two users.
Meris
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoNothing Left to Say
6 years agoFori
6 years agokrmarchese
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoMeris
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoemilyam819
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoI found this sink that meets all my needs (except being granite...which doesn't seem to exist). I posted a separate thread to see if anyone has any opinions on the company/brand or specs of the sink.
Should be plenty large to fit two faucets!
crcollins1_gw
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agocrcollins1_gw
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI just realized you asked about a 70/30 granite on another thread. The shape of the one I linked to above is such that it really does hold more than you think it will. I really like my sink, mainly because of the low divide. You can wash large items without getting the countertop all wet! This is my actual sink.
Jen Hans
6 years agokaismom
6 years agoJen Hans
6 years agoSammy
6 years agoI came across this picture -- while searching for a different design dilemma! -- and thought you might like to see:
[Source[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/granite-countertops-and-tile-backsplash-ideas-eclectic-kitchen-indianapolis-phvw-vp~1124381)
Jen Hans
6 years ago
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