Stock Pot vs Dutch Oven
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dutch oven: stainless steel clad vs. enameled cast iron
Comments (6)I can't speak to enameled cast iron Dutch oven versus clad stainless steel Dutch oven. As for cast iron skillet versus clad stainless skillet, they would be ideal for different tasks. Cast iron is a poor conductor of heat, but will hold (store) a lot of heat. When you put a cast iron pan on the burner, it will take a significant time to heat up and may have hot spots while it is heating. After a while (on my burner, 2-3 minutes), it will be evenly hot. When meat is placed in the pan, the pan will stay hot because it has so much stored heat. This makes cast iron great for searing and browning. After the cast iron pan gets seasoned with oil, it is also practically non-stick, if you wash it properly (no soap). However . . . cast iron pans do not change temperature quickly. If you cook something more delicate than a ribeye and it starts to scorch, turning down the heat won't quickly cool down the pan. Rapidly getting to a particular temperature is a bit tricky. They are heavy, so flipping and tossing is hard. Clad stainless steel is almost the opposite. The aluminum inside is an excellent conductor of heat, but does not hold much heat. So the pan will heat up quickly on the burner, and cool quickly when you lower the flame, it is responsive. You can get the desired temperature - say, a medium-low heat - right away, and the pan will have an even temperature without bad hot spots. But when you put the cold meat on the pan, the pan cools down quickly, until the burner brings the heat back up. So it is not as good for heavy searing. Stainless steel is sticky, protein (meat, fish, egg) sticks immediately and stays stuck until it gets browned and releases. Even then, bits of crusty food are left on the pan. That is a good thing - it is ''fond'', the foundation of a pan sauce - but if you weren't planning to make a pan sauce it can be a pain. You can avoid stickage by using plenty of oil, of course. If you get a stainless pan really hot, food and oil will scorch onto it, making for a cleaning job. Basically, you should have both, and use each for what it is best at. I use my cast iron pan at full-hot, for searing meat mostly. I use my clad stainless for more medium and low heat cooking, or at high heat if I want fond. If I could only have one, I'd get the clad stainless....See MoreDutch Oven Choices
Comments (4)I haven't used stainless so I can't address it. I have a few cast iron items, one by Le Creuset and two by its imitators--an enameled Lodge ('Lodge Color')and one by 'Best Equipped Kitchen'. I've also used a Lodge raw cast iron (non-enameled). The Le Creuset cooks very well and is gorgeous. It is pricey, though, and you have to ask if it's worth the premium over the imitators. I have to say, I've been happy with the performance of the cheapos. Now, will the enamel last as long as LC? Dunno, but since they are about a fourth or a third of the price of the LC, the LC would have to last 3 or 4 times as long as the cheapies to justify the premium, IMHO. Of course, if you don't mind paying that premium by all means go ahead--LC is a great item. If you want to try out one for size and applicability, you might want to go by your local Sam's Club; I was at my local one yesterday, and they had a 6 qt round Dutch oven for about $40. And although it had the 'Members Mark' label on it, it sure looked suspiciously like the Lodge Color Enamel. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled off the same Chinese assembly line. Another source for inexpensive items is TJMaxx; I got my one piece of LC there because it was a second (a slight swirl in the enamel of the lid, doesn't affect the performance a bit). I have both oval and round; oval is nice when you want to cook a whole bird in it, round is nice as a general stovetop pot--both cook well. Sizewise, bear in mind that these suckers are HEAVY. A 9 qt filled with food will be pretty hefty. I'd probably go with two pots, one a 2.5 to 4 qt and another in the 6 to 8 qt range. And if you want to put these through their paces, by all means get a copy of Molly Steven's excellent book 'All About Braising'. Wonderful info. Here is a link that might be useful: all about braising...See Moredutch oven use it like an oven?
Comments (21)rhome410 - Wow! I didn't even know Le Creuset made a 13.25 qt pot. Here's the thing - it's going to be so heavy when filled that even I would shy away from using it. And then there's the expense. For that kind of money, you would be better off with the All-Clad Stainless 12-Quart Stock Pot ($326.88 on Amazon). It gets top marks from Cooks Illustrated in part because "The aluminum core runs up the side of the pot". Since I personally won't be spending over $300 on a stock pot any time soon, I have a couple of other recommendations: 1. I'm not aware of another stock pot like All-Clad that go all the way up the sides, but Cooks Illustrated next highest rated is the Cuisinart Chef's Classic Stainless 12-Quart Stock Pot which gets very high marks, is ever so much more manageable than the Le Creuset and only costs around $60. Because it has a wide base, it will help a little with the bottom sides not burning, but you're still going to have to watch them carefully. 2. For heavier braising and thick soups/stews, for myself, I bought the the Mario Batali Braiser Oval 9 Qt enamel on cast iron pot. Cooks Illustrated rates these Mario Batali pots nearly as highly as Le Creuset and they're about half the price. They don't make a round one that size, but the shallower part of the oval is still 11" and provides for reasonably even burner coverage on my range (although if I remember correctly you actually have a more high powered range at home than I do). Hope this helps. plllog - great advice (along with everyone else) on "fish stick/chicken strip" making. The rounded sides on your your Le Creuset soup pot work better for at least 2 reasons: 1. A pan with 90 degree sides allows heat to enter from both the bottom and the side so, in effect, the food in the corner is getting up to twice as much heat - even more for a perfectly square or rectangular baking pan taking heat on 3 sides (ever noticed how the corners of brownies are quick to burn). 2. Rounded sides allow for more complete and efficient stirring therefore also reducing burning. These two reasons are probably why most pots are actually round/rounded in the first place. You'll note that practically all good casserole dishes (made for long cooking without stirring) are round/rounded on all edges. Interestingly, this can be even more important for microwave cooking....See MoreSlightly OT Poll - How Do You Store Le Creuset Dutch Ovens?
Comments (31)We just bought the 5 shelf iron display. The shelves are not wide enough for the large 9 1/2 qt oval dutch oven. The 5 1/2 qt and 3 1/2 qt round ones look great on it. I am a little disappointed the large oval doesn't fit. I tried putting it on top, but, since it's the largest pot in the mix, it looked strange. Also, we have the 3 1/2 qt braiser, it fits, but, you have to turn it so the handles don't hit the bars on the side. So for now, the stand and the other pans in the mix sit in my bay window. It's the only place I could see all of them and not keep them in a cabinet. For me, they are heavy, it's easier to lift them from about half counter height. And it makes for a nice window display. We paid alot for them, it would be awful just to hide them away....See More- 8 years ago
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