Huh?

I'm guessing Chess means lines like the ones in this sink. Is that right, Chess?

If so, not all sinks have them.

Oh I'm using fireclay sinks.

It's a commercial look. It's not in all of them.

Drainage assistance

It's mostly seen in the sinks with zero radius corners. Is that what you are looking for?

i had commented on your Blanco sink post but can't find it now. In that post I recommended you check out Kraus sinks at Overstock or expressdecor. Expressdecor has coupon codes on its home page for even greater savings.

Yes, writersblock, exactly what I was referring to. MOST sinks (obviously I am talking about stainless steel!), other than the rounded-edge older styles, have those marks today. They really are unattractive, to me.

friedajune, no - not looking for zero-radius at ALL. Just trying to find a sink that is has a large left bowl (at least 18" front-to-back and 13.55 or so wide) and a large right bowl (16 x 14). Very hard to do now, in a sink with a good finish (not that awful brushed finish). Yes I am PICKY. I know it. I have sent 2 sinks back already. It's frustrating. MY BF thinks I am nuts! :-) I will probably just order the Elkay. Was trying to not spend that much money but it's just not possible I guess.

As friedajune said, those are mostly found in zero-radius sinks, which look terrific but are not that popular here after a while with people who have had to deal with cleaning the corners. You should be able to find tight-radius corner sinks, which are modern-looking (for now), but have just enough of a curve to make cleaning easier.

Agree about checking out Kraus sinks, which are available most places. I can't recall many of theirs having the drainage planes that make the lines.

ETA We cross-posted, but I can't recall ever seeing them in a double bowl. Where are you looking? I would check out build.com, although I wouldn't buy from them if you're likely to need to return it, but they do have a lot of sinks.

Do you handwash a lot? Why do you want a two basin sink?

Well like I said in your thread where you said your Blanco Supreme sink is going back, the Kraus sinks are well-loved on this forum, are in the thicker 16-gauge (the Blanco Supreme is the thinner 18 gauge), and come with a sink grid for free.

Also in your other thread and above you said you wanted a polished finish. Many people don't want such a highly polished finish because it will show scratches more. Scratches are inevitable in a stainless steel sink even if you buy a $2000 custom one. A sink grid will help but you will still get scratches. So ease up on the requirement for a highly polished finish. A brushed finish is anything but "awful". A polished finish won't stay like that for long.

with a good finish (not that awful brushed finish)

You do realize that scratches happen and your polished sink is going to look pretty much like the brushed one in a couple of years?

Hmmm...maybe a C-tech will work. This one, but an 11" left sink is so freaking deep - does anyone really like a sink that deep? I love the size, but man 11"?

"LI-300"

Maybe this would be better.

"LI-300-S"

writersblock, my old sink is a polished finish. It's nearly 15 years old. It looks better than EITHER of the sinks I just bought and returned.

friedajune, I keep reading that, but I actually HAVE a polished finish on my current (old) sink. It's far nicer than these crappy new "brushed" finishes they have started using. So easy to clean because it is so smooth. Everything comes off, easily. Any scratches that it has, are so insignificant that it does not impact the appearance at all. I don't intend to "ease up". :-)

Since you are looking at a 31" size, I wouldn't recommend a double bowl sink. Double bowl sinks are good if you have a 36" cabinet. Smaller than that, neither bowl will be big enough. Perhaps think about a single bowl. Go someplace with the sinks on display and bring a favorite pan with you. You will see then if you might like a single bowl sink.

I do have 36" cabinet - not sure why you think I have smaller. I don't think you realize that the 31+ lengths are the normal size for a 36+" cab.

I really don't want a single bowl. I have looked at tons of sinks. But I will have to look at more apparently. *sigh* At least I am on vacation next week so hopefully I will find something!

Yeah, I wouldn't like that 11" deep bowl. It's going to be even deeper once it's undermounted.

Chess, you do know that if you don't use clips (use a sink harness instead) you can put a much larger sink in a cabinet than you could with the clips?

ETA Oh, and yeah, you're right. A lot of the squared-off double bowls do have the drain lines now.

Your 15 year old polished sink very well may be 316 stainless which is an exterior grade stainless and a bit more durable. It "should" show scratches a bit less as it is a tougher alloy in general.

The other issue is that my sink (like the one above) has completely straight sides. So many of the ones I have seen (and both of the ones I just returned) have slight slopes so the bottom is smaller than the top.

Those indented lines in large sinks greatly improve the drainage towards the drain. Preventing water standing in a flat bottom. Very glad mine has them.

Mine does not have them, never had a problem with standing water either.

If you love your old sink why don't you just reuse it?

Problem solved!

Because it's not an undermount? It's a drop-in.

Has the drop-in-ness of the sink been a problem for you? I find being able to wipe the counter directly into a trash pull-out in my prep space is just as useful as wiping the counter into a sink.

It's a personal preference, but for me an undermount just isn't that important and I couldnt justify the extra cost. I installed a drop in last year after having an undermount in my previous kitchen for seven years.

I am getting new countertops - quartz! I need an undermount.

Just for the record... there's no rule that says quartz countertops require an undermount sink.

LOL. I know that. I want that style with my new counters. It;s much cleaner looking. I'm sure my fabricator would install a drop in if I wanted it, but I don't.

Chess--Have you looked at Franke sinks?

I have, but they don't make the size I want. I like the regatta models but like the Kraus above (which is something I just discovered) on the RGX120 the right bowl is also 10" deep. My disposal is under my right sink, and I don't want to lose my storage under there (or have to deal with the problems of lowering the plumbing for the disposal). So left sink I want deeper than the right. The RGX 160 is okay, but that right sink is less than 7" deep. Not too sure I want one that shallow.

You guys are great by the way. Love that you are trying to help and not slam me for being so picky about a stupid sink. LOL

BTW: I was going to suggest the Regatta RGX160. :/

I often find myself shopping for a product that doesn't seem to exist. I feel your pain!

So, I just called Kohler and actually spoke to a guy there who verified for me that the undertone finish (the one that I saw in person and loved) is the same exact finish on all of their undertone models. Now, they have a model (3177) that fits my requirements for size. 2 reasons I have not bought it.

1 it's so damn expensive. $771.

2. If you look on the Kohler website, the 3177 (which is the one I like but have never seen in person), and the 3150, (which is the sink that I have seen and it is just gorgeous), they look like a different finish on the website. So after just having bought two sinks that looked fine online and getting them home and being disappointed, I really can't trust the pictures now. I could just go ahead and buy the 3150, but, I really do like the measurements, (and yes I know I'm being damn picky about size) of the 3177 better. So, I guess I just have to decide if I want to bite that $771 bullet and order the damn thing. I guess I could order it through Home Depot, and opening up in the store and if I didn't like it I could return it right there. But I'm kind of doubting that there would be an issue since the guy at Koehler was very sure about the finish. Just crazy to spent that much on a sink!! I almost wish I had never gone into that Fergusons in Raleigh! LOL!

Do you love it? Will you still be able to eat next month if you spend $771 on this sink? If you answered "yes" to both questions, then buy the damn sink! :-)

LOL. This sinks looks great, for the money. I would lose an inch on the right bowl, but I guess I could live with that. The description says "Commercial grade premium satin finish ". I have emailed the company to see if that means a truly smooth finish rather than a brushed one.

https://www.vigoindustries.com/32-inch-undermount-stainless-steel-18-gauge-double-bowl-kitchen-sink-vg3221l-116

"Because it's not an undermount? It's a drop-in."

Lots of drop-in sinks can be undermounted, it just depends on the shape of the flange.

""Commercial grade premium satin finish "

To means it will be brushed. Stainless finishes for the most part are either polished or brushed.