Using Land Equity for a C2P Loan
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Anyone get a land loan recently? (found THE perfect lot!)
Comments (26)Most people with hobby farms around here let a local cut and bale the hay and just keep it. Or, they hire them to do it if they've got horses that can use it. It takes quite a bit of money to buy all of the equipment to deal with 14 acres, even if you're not baling hay. I have a friend who got a pretty good bargain for a 35 horse tractor, bush hog, finish mower, grader blade, box blade, etc. It still came to 40K. Adding on the hay equipment on top of that is another 10K easy. That is an expense that most city people fail to take into account when buying acreage. It's work and it doesn't take care of itself. A good portion of your time will be spent keeping opportunistic saplings cut down, and the fence in good condition, and mowing....See MoreTotally confused with land and construction loans....
Comments (8)Kelly When you say "We are in contract on the lot" - with whom? Is it an independent seller of the land or with a builder? if with a builder - what type (custom home builder or large residential builder like Toll Brothers)? These answers are needed to better help you out. If you put a contract on a lot with an independent seller of the land - then don't do a seperate land & construction loan. Simply wait until your current house sells and buy the land with that money. I will explain why in a minute. If you are buying through a custom builder who owns the lot, then don't do a land loan either. If you are buying through a large residential builder, the land and house are bundled together in the purchase price and the mortgage loan you get will cover both land & house. Only 1 loan is needed - and you don't close on that loan until the house is done. Getting a loan on bare land with no house on it is expensive (higher interest rates and harder to qualify ) because it is a bigger risk to a bank. It is usually harder to sell bare land than one with a house it (exceptions to this rule are in places like Malibu, CA). Why pay points, loan origination fees, and closing costs on a seperate land loan that you can purchase with cash? Typically when you apply for a construction loan, the land value is included as part of the estimated value of the house/land when it is complete. This is important because that total value will be used to calculate how much money you can borrow. Let's say your land is worth $50K (and you own it out right with no loan) and the house when complete is worth $350K (the appraised value) - then the total appraised value of the property when completed would be $400K. If you put 25% of your own money (the land value and your planned cash into the house is included) into the construction project, then the bank will let you borrow $300K for the house project assuming you qualify for that payment. Note that the appraised value of the house IS NOT the contract price for the new house. The construction loan can be seperate from the mortage BUT I would not recommend you go that route. There are banks who offer construction loans that will convert into the mortgage when the house is done. You close once on the construction loan (pay points & loan origination fee + closing costs) at the start, then you convert at the end and pay no other CLOSING costs. BUT watch out for this, at the end when you convert you will have to pay up to 6 months of estimated future taxes & insurance to seed the escrow account for your new mortgage loan so you will need to bring money to the table when you convert at the end (these aren't CLOSING costs per se but it is money out of your pocket). But at least you only pay closing costs and loan orgination fees once instead of twice. The way the construction loan works is basically like a line of credit. You only pay on the loan amount as you draw from the line of credit - and multiple draws occur as the house is built (5 to 7 draws are typical). These draws are tied to completed stages of the house like plans complete & permits approved, foundation complete, framing & roof complete, rough in plumbing/electrical/HVAC complete, drwall complete, painting complete, final finishes complete, etc. So during the construction process - your monthly payment on the construction loan will incrementally increase as draws are paid out to the builder. That is why I suggest that you use as much of your own cash to make the initial draw payments to the builder and then draw down on the construction loan as late in the process as you can. Reason is that you want to minimize your payments on the construction loan - which are essentuially just interest payments. If you are paying rent and construction loan costs at the same time you can see that minimizing the double payments for as long as you can make it easier on you financially. Example. let's say that you own that 50K piece of land and you have another $150K in cash from the sale of the house. You decide that you want to keep $50K in your pocket (to cover any possible overages - a good idea) and the other $100K to be used on the new house, and you have the $300K loan ready to go (so you have up to 400K to cover building costs on a project that should cost let's say 300K). So you start the project - you use YOUR $100K of money to pay the builder for the first 2 or 3 draws and the bank money money to cover the rest (you can also do a mixed payment where you put in some of your own money and you use some of the the bank money to cover a particular draw). So you pay the first $100K and let's say the house winds up actually costing you $325K because of a few oopses and some upgrades you decided to make. At the end, you only used $225K of bank money and $100K of your money. You only paid interest on the portions of the $225K as you paid the builder. You don't pay interest on the other $75K that you did not draw from the bank. When you convert the construction loan to the mortgage, your new mortgage will be for $225K. If you can use your money to cover the initial few payments to the builder you might not not have to make a constuction loan payment until 2 or 3 months into the build - and that is 2 or 3 months worth of payments that you keep in your pocket. In our build, we started the project in Sept 06 but did not make our first interest payment to the bank until late Spring 2007 which was nice because our house wasn't finished until Dec 2007 - 6 months late. You could do 2 seperate loans - one for land and one for house - but hopefully you get the point that you don't have to do it this way and it would cost you a lot more money (in loan fees and monthly payments) to have 2 seperate loans. I Hope this helps....See MoreQuestion about Land Equity
Comments (2)Your lender might be different, but the price paid for your land is not what's significant. What is significant is what your new house on your new property, will appraise for vs your actual construction costs and what you still owe on your land, if anything. For example, you bought a lot for 50K 5 years ago. Say that today that lot would appraise for 100K. Assume you paid 10K down, and have since paid down another 15K on the land, so you still owe 25K. Now let's say that your house will be built by your father in law contractor for 300K. Hypothetically, let's say the appraisal for your house on your land comes back at 500K. You would owe 300K + 25K to get your house built on your land. If you appraised at 500K then you'd have $175K equity in the property which, depending on your lender, could be used to offset a down payment requirement. In this case it would probably qualify you for a conforming note, a better interest rate, and no PMI. I'm using round numbers which may have no resemblance to your situation, but hopefully you get the idea. That's my understanding anyway, having gone through similar discussions with my bank....See MoreUsing Land as Equity for Construction Loan
Comments (15)Schedule an appointment to talk with the lender at the bank other owner-builders have worked with. Don't get caught up in the current market value of your land...it is irrelevant. The bank will (most likely) not lend more than 80% of the appraised value of the final product. How much will an appraiser say the house on the 5 acres will sell for when completed? My bank will let owner sweat equity count towards the 20% down...it doesn't have to be actual cash. My lender will also allow us to start the house and come see them when we are out of funds, but this is not typical. Very few banks will do owner-build construction loans. Each have their own rules. Go talk to your lender. But the bottom line is your land value doesn't matter. What matters is what your property will sell for once completed. For all we know, your bank may only lend 60% of the appraised value on owner-builds. Make an appointment and get their rules....See MorePaul
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