Laura, so you ordered both? :D

I received my Bouquet D Fleurs a few weeks ago. It is a lovely plant. It has a few fruit growing on the bottom of the tree.

Jinny, I must have been in la la land when I read your post! LOL. How was the flavor of the valentine? Also, I know the bouquet de fleurs is supposed to be mostly an ornamental because of the beauty of the leaves and scent of the flowers, but I would hate to waste fruit. Do you have any ideas for marinades using the juice?

I love the look of the Boquet De Fleurs, but don't know if I would use the fruit enough to justify having one. The Valentine sounds awesome though, does it have any special growing requirements? I love pommelos but have shied away from them knowing they like lots of heat. I did pick up an Oro Blanco over the weekend but that was a complete impulse purchase.

Sammers, I don't know about the valentine. I intend to treat it like my others...

Well, I think they're sold out now.

Josh, I ordered last night. Is that possible??

Laura, after this public announcement they just might be..Ha!

I am going to call tonight, trust me..Thank you!

Lol Mike...perhaps more people lurk here than we realize ;-). I thought of you bc I know you've wanted the bouquet de fleurs for a while.

Me thinks that Josh is "Josh"ing us! " :D Haaha.. Last I checked FW had just a few BDF left in stock.. Mike, I thought you had a Bouquet de Fleurs already? If not, you best order soon if you desire it! :)

Laura, Sammers, the sour orange fruit would be wonderful as a marinade in fatty dishes like pork, and fatty fish recipes. I came across a recipe that uses the juice in pickled red onions. Great for many Mexican dishes.. Salsa etc.. Also great marinade for pork in Conchinita Pibil..As soon as I have enough sour oranges I am making it.. It sounds really yummy! And let's not forget the sour juice would make a wonderful sour orange pie.. similar to key lime pie..yummy!

I plan on using the intoxicating scented flowers and rind in tea blends, and face creams, salves and for aromatherapy. So many uses for it..

I wonder if it would be different enough from the Seville I just got. I love the idea of a sour orange but not sure if I need multiple of them right now, it will certainly stay on the wish list for how pretty they are just lower on the priority list. The valentine seems like it would taste wonderful, but for now I will have to make due with my new Oro Blanco and Moro Blood Orange.

Jinny you are a wealth of cooking info and ideas! I can't wait till I have some sour oranges. Sammers, my Seville is huge (compared to it a year ago), but no blossoms yet. I am floored by how many fruits I may come in the coming year...especially limes and lemons. We are going to have to come up with lots of interesting ways to use them! ;-)

Sammers, your Seville is a very good, popular, sour orange variety. You use the juice, rind etc.. in the same recipes calling for almost any kind of sour orange. I believe it has its own wonderful blend of citrus nuance flavors..

Oro Blanco and Moro Blood are great choices to add to your citrus collection. .. Start with the top of your list and stick with what you are really going to love and use, for now.. :)

Laura, so many recipes, so little time. Lol.. Between all us I believe we can come up with some good ones to share before, or, once everyone has trees that start producing loads of ripe fruit..

Now if FW would just restock their lemon varieties... I've been waiting on the chance to buy a Santa Teresa lemon for what feels like a whole year!

There are at least 50 valentine and only one bouquet de fleurs left

Pac Seriously, It has been since early last May that they have been out of Santa Teresa's. I know because I almost bought one at the beginning of May for my birthday last year and decided to wait until the 10th for my birthday money, they had 9 left so I din't worry about it and by then they were sold out. I regret not getting one so bad lol. I have be stalking them all over the internet and can't find anyone who's selling any. Its pretty dad thier lemon selection overall. They have only had Meyers and now a few Villafranca's for a long time. I wonder whats going on that they have so few varieties? Either they are only selling to nursery's or there's a shortage. I have reminders set for a lot of the out of stock ones and the only one to come briefly into stock was the NZL. I keep telling myself it will be my last citrus tree to complete my collection this year but because I can't find one I keep buying other tree's, it's a vicious cycle ;)

I emailed FW asking for more info, and the best they could give me was "maybe this Fall" for the ST. I wish there was another source to purchase that variety from in the US!

I wonder why that one is so popular? I've not tasted the lemons yet, but the growth habit of that tree I find slightly annoying. It is definitely more finicky than my other lemons and it grows out, which is difficult for those that need to bring their trees in for winter. I hope the lemons are incredibly good to compensate ;-)

Some say that the feminello lemons are the only ones you can make real limoncello with and Santa Teresa is a feminello with resistance to some disease.

I think FW is prioritizing wholesale over retail I bought a ST from Phoenix this year and it was from FW. Bouquet de fleur is on top of my list . i want it for the v fragrant flowers . hopefully someone will get it up here in canada .

Hey devsense... did you already receive your order from Phenix? I am actually getting extremely irritated with them... they have not reached out to me about my order and I called and it is there, I left a message for Gary and he has not called me back. They have over $300 of my money tied up!

Devsense, you may be right about FW but that's all to the good for us Canadians. I just discovered Phoenix this year and bought a kishu, centennial kumquat and NZ lemonade from them. They were all from FW and several weeks ago there were still about 8 Santa Teresa lemons available. Bouquet de fleur is also on my list, maybe it'll show up next year.

Hobby, sorry to hear you haven't gotten your order yet. They seem like good people at Phoenix and each time I've been there I've seen Gary around chatting to his customers, many of whom seem like regulars. Hope you hear back soon.

Hobby - looks like u also missed the news letter about citrus preorder . when I was wondering as to why no news I saw the newsletter in my emails . call phoenix again or mail Gary . u have to give ur card details again for shipping the pre-orders didn't include any shipping cost. also a few varieties that were on the list didn't materialize so u did need to check that as well I replaced Genoa with a Centennial kumquat. N Yes I received my shipment around 2 weeks back n Gary was generous as well since 1 gallon ST lemon didn't come he upgraded to a 3 gallon size for free.

CF - it's certainly is getting better. few years back all we could find was Persian lime n Meyer lemon now even the big box stores have it . while new speciality nurseries have come up.

Dev

Hobby, I have been thinking of you, Dev, and other GW Canadians and wondered if you received your citrus pre-order from Phoenix. Sorry to hear that you have not, but hope you get it straightened out soon.. I want to see pictures when you do... :)

Laura, Four Winds website crashed this weekend. I wonder if it was because of your public announcement. .lol :D No worries.. It is back up and running today!

LOL Jinny! That's hilarious! I looked last night and the bouquet the fleurs are in fact sold out now as mentioned above. I got their tracking email last night, so they are on their way...

Plus I bought the big grafted valencia locally recently so I think that is all for me this year!! Never say never though.

Hi Jinny, thanks and nice to see you back! Will post pics when I get everyone.

Hobby, Glad your order got all sorted out and your trees are on their way to you. You've got some great varieties there. Looking forward to seeing the pics. I got a meiwa kumquat from David too and it took a few weeks but it seems to have settled in - it is tiny but flower buds are swelling! What a dilemma as I know I've got to remove the little kumquats when they show up but...

Dev, yes there seems to be more interest in growing citrus now although I noticed last week at Costco there still were a lot of limes and some Meyers left and were discounted. A few years back they'd have all sold by now but more places like HD and Can Tire also have them so people must be getting pickier about what they buy.

Thanks CF! Do you know who the grower is of the trees at Costco? I have never seen them there here in SK.

Lowes has a bunch of the Record Buck trees in stock. I am staying away from those until I can see some success from them. So far I have an over 50% death rate from RB rooted cuttings. 2 big ones that I thought were not going to make it did come back this spring though so I am keeping my eye on them lol.

That being said 1 Eureeka and 1 meyer from RB have been my best producing trees so far.... and ironically I never tried repotting, they are still in the original mix. They both have new fruit setting now but I may pinch them all off to let more greenery get growing.

Hobby, Nice selection of trees! There are no citrus trees whatsoever at any of the nurseries or big box stores in my area. Maybe it is just as well as I have so many trees already and they are getting large and will not fit back in the greenhouse in the fall. Enjoy your new trees and good luck with them.

Cory

Yes Hobby! Nice selection! And you got a ST...that's great!! Fukushu, NZL, lots of great choices! Please post pics when you get them!

Great list of varieties, Hobby! I am happy that your shipment is finally on its way at last. I look forward to seeing the pictures after they arrive and you get them all potted up. I have both the Genoa Lemon and two Santa Teresa Lemon trees and even though I know you are disappointed in not receiving the Genoa, I think you will love the Santa Teresa. It is a favorite of mine and both the lemons and tree are beautiful. A plus is that you will receive larger trees now. Maybe you will have baby lemons on it when it arrives?? :)

Cory, I hear you.. No citrus for sale at any nursery or big box stores in our neck of the woods. Not even close.. So sad..

Brian, that Lemon tree and fruit are gorgeous. What variety is that and how old is the tree? I love it so much. Thanks for sharing. I hope mine look like that down the road. Great job..

Hobby, I think the Costco trees are from Record Buck. My first meyer and calamondin came potted together in one pot from Costco and were RB trees. That was about 5 years ago. Now Costco sells them singly but in these fancy looking ceramic pots that say Lemon, Lime, Orange so nobody will get confused. Can Tire and other big grocery stores sell trees from RB too, that's why it's great to see different varieties from specialty sellers here in Canada.

Brian, that is a beautiful lemon tree. I can only dream of when I can have something like that.

Hobby, be careful with that minneola, it is a huge tree. Mine is massive. I think in the future I will have to trim it down, but for now it's fine.

I posted a comment before refreshing and missed all the other comments. Brian, Jinny beat me to the question...what kind of lemon tree is it? Beautiful tree as always!!

I can't wait for a Honeybell tree, but the real ones are practically impossible to find. It's gonna have to be seed grown.

Cf03 nice to see you found your way to the forum. By looking at your zone 8a tells me that you live on the west coast of British Columbia very nice . We pretty well have all Canada covered the west , central, the east now all we need are some east coasters. Must be nice seeing citrus at Costco I haven't seen any here at our Costco yet but that's probably because I live in zone barely 5 .

Brian

cf03 - I was wondering the same as Brian since I have never seen citrus in Costco anyway nowa days I don't get as excited seeing citrus in big box stored since it's always the common varieties and I have them all.

Brian- the sago palm looks v beautiful. indeed.

Brian and Dev, thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking a while and have learned so much from all the experts here. Discovered I was doing everything wrong so maybe I'll finally get some fruit now after years of lots of blooms but no fruit ;-) And yes the Costcos here started selling citrus about five years ago for about half of what the garden centers were charging. Unfortunately they haven't really added different varieties although 2 years ago they brought in olive trees. Don't like olives so I passed but they were beautiful looking. Haven't seen them again.

Welcome cf03! I've never seen citrus here at Sams, but I have at Home Depot. Post pics of your trees so we can enjoy them. I love seeing everyone's trees!

Well, they arrived safely today! Here is a pic. The valentine is tiny - 1 year old tree, but the bouquet de fleurs is lovely. I don't see scale ( I'm paranoid now) but I'll keep a close watch.

Congrats on your new babies Laura beautiful tree's . Wait until you smell the blooms on your bouquet the scent is i am told out of this world and the valentine is supposed to be very yummy .

Brian

Really pretty Laura! Mine did not arrive yesterday so now they will stuck in a box all weekend in transit... not ideal bit it has happened before and they recover.

Thanks Brian! Hobby, I hope yours arrive soon. That stuff stresses me out!

thank you for posting pictures of your trees Laura. I'm getting two one year old Valentines this Friday. very excited about the size. I thought they will be smaller. They are coming with two two year old Cara Cara ( killed mine last winter ) and one three year old Troviata.

Oh that is exciting Susanne! Post pics when you receive them please. I love to see everyone's trees. My valentine is a one year tree and although small compared to the bouquet, it does have nice branching and even one tiny fruit. I guess I should remove it, but I would love to keep it ;-)

yes will post pictures :)

Oh I would also be tempted to leave it on. It would fall off by itself I guess