How tall is the tree?.A view of the whole tree and a close up of the leaf structure would help.

It appears to be a sappling - Maybe a total of 4-5 ft tall.. Unfortunately this was the only photo I snapped, it was the only branch that had fruit(?) on it, they are about the size of a ping-pong ball.

its in your yard.. and you cant get another pic?

Apologies, I guess that was confusing. We recently purchased the property but haven't moved in yet. We were out there doing repairs last weekend but probably won't be able to get out there again until next. Just trying to ID some of the plants that I'm not familiar with. Appreciate any help you can offer.

With those leaves likely to be D. virginiana.

Thanks for the responses. This particular persimmon tree is growing up next to an oak tree in an area that is shady most of the day due to several surrounding oak trees. Would it be smart to remove it and re-plant in a full sun area or would that be unwise?

Show picture of all the trees together to enable most useful responses.

Here's the best photo I have.. Though a bit hard to see, I've circled the persimmon's location. It does show however, how wooded/shady the area is. We just purchased the land and are now in the process of rehabilitation. I would love to eventually utilize this area to grow fruit & other edibles and have been toying with the idea of removing some of these oaks but haven't fully committed yet. Thoughts? Thanks!!

The original photo is too close in and all the shading obscures the leaves, but you could try checking out these three genera and comparing them to your tree.Clusia,Chrysobalanus and Malnikara.

jay - it's a Persimmon. The id was agreed a while back in the thread.

Ok, I must be confused.The o.p. is referring to it as the persimmon,but is he a hundred percent sure because he's still posting more pics? IMO the leaves don't look narrow or pointed enough for persimmon, but with all the shading in the first pic it's hard to tell and as for gleaning anything more from the second pic I mean come on really!!! Should have specified reasonable amount of distance for second photo.Not happy with photo quality so this is so not worth it.It's a Persimmon if you want it to be....Next!

OK just to clarify. The latest picture was not for an identification but was responding to Embothrium's request for a photo of the tree's position vis a vis other trees. Embo was responding to the OP's supplementary question re moving the tree into sunlight.

Regarding the id, if you look back at the first picture there are 4 very clear sepals at the back of the fruit and a distinct blossom end point. Typical persimmon. It's not a question of forcing it into what we 'want it to be'. It's a question of using the evidence. I'm using my iPad which is excellent for zooming and producing clear pictures. I often swap to it from my laptop for that reason. Maybe on other devices the distinguishing features are less clear.

Yes, thanks floral, the second photo was per Embothrium's request yesterday. I am pretty well sold on this plant being persimmon at this point jay. Just trying to decide if I should move it to a more sunny area - as it is basically growing in the shade of an oak canopy and from all I've read persimmons prefer full sun.