Some English roses
John (PNW zone 8)
6 years ago
I never think I have many English roses, but when I set up to photograph each of them yesterday, I was surprised...
Abraham Darby looking good this year:
Evelyn, ready for her close-up:
...as is Charity 97:
Teasing Georgia just starting to bloom:
And Tradescant, looking better than I've ever seen him as he attempts to crawl up onto the front porch:
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John (PNW zone 8)
6 years agoOh, and Radio Times - looking slightly garish in the bright sun, but smelling fantastic:
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Comments (24)I bought a couple of Mortimer Sacklers from David Austin, and they were very large and healthy plants. Later I happened to read a Paul Zimmerman post mentioning that Dr. Huey doesn't last more than about 5 years in South Carolina, so I think I'd not go with that graft again for this area of the country. (I believe that DA does use Dr. Huey for their grafts.) What I'd do now, if ordering Mortimer Sackler again, would be to order it as an ownroot plant from Roses Unlimited. Other ownroot roses are all doing very well here, and I like not having to worry about where the "real" rose starts, in terms of how low I might be able to cut off a cane if it has some disease or winter dieback. And in this section of the country, ownroot roses take off in growth the first year. Paul Zimmerman, who has grown and sold both types with the same varieties, has said that an ownroot plant catches up in growth within about three years to whatever it would have been if grafted. But if I were ordering a grafted plant for use around here, I'd want the rose grafted onto Multiflora or Fortuniana. Best wishes, Mary...See MoreDA Rose Question for Gardeners in zone 9-10
Comments (10)I moved to my No Cal home 2 yrs ago and planted several Austins. Abe Darby (grafted) does well in the Sacramento heat. 1.5 yr old plant is about 5x5. No disease issues for me. Planted right along my walkway so I can smell him as I walk in the door. Wm Shakespeare 2000 (own root) is young and too soon to tell, but sparse bloom all season. Less vigorous growth than other own roots planted at same time. The Prince (grafted) - have 2 of these - loved it when I had it in coastal So Cal. It grows more like a HT. Upright plant about 4.5 ft tall and 2.5 wide. Wonderful flush and rebloom. The heat here really fries the blooms. Have on with only AM sun and another that is partially shaded by the eaves of the house and a crape mytle. The one partially shaded blooms better, but also fries more. The Dark Lady (own root) - vigorous growth in 1.5 yrs. currently about 4x4. Good rebloom, no issues so far. Does well in the heat. My best red Austin for the heat. Glamis Castle (grafted)- small bushy shrub about 3x3, wonderful rebloom, covered in flowers, not so pleasant fragrance to my nose. As Luanne mentioned, needs to be pruned properly - the spent blooms are ugly and with the twiggy growth it takes more time than with most roses. Didn't like it at first, but it is one of the best blooming Austins I have, so it will stay. Charles Austin (grafted)- looks sickly, ? if has RMV. Good first flush, then poor rebloom. Throws out gangly canes. Blooms are the golden color in spring, then pale cream in the heat. Probably will SP this year. Geoff Hamilton (grafted) - balled, blooms never really opened, poor rebloom. Blooms are a faded dirty white in the heat. Will get SP'd this year. Falstaff (grafted) - gangly long canes, blooms fry in the heat. Will get SP'd this year. Othello (grafted) - huge numbers of buds this year - but they did not open. Poor rebloom, gangly growth. Will get SP'd. Jude the Obscure (own root) about 5x4 now - will stay no matter what disease he may get (has been clean). Great first flush and decent rebloom. Frangrance is fabulous. Keep him for the fragrance. Yum. Redoute (grafted) - healthy, nice first flush, not as much rebloom later in season, about 4x4. Newly planted a few months ago - Crown Princess Margaretta (grafted) - too soon to tell, but appears to have the long cane growth. Decent rebloom on such a young plant. Romanticas - Fred Mistral (grafted)- huge moster of a plant - about 6-7 ft tall, nearly as wide. Beautiful in bloom, fragrant, does well in the heat and the blooms don't fry. Needs lots of room. Yves Piaget (Grafted) - Dr. Huey is trying to take over and I think I may be losing the battle. Beautiful blooms, does not ball here. No disease issues. Fries a bit in the heat. This was my favorite rose when I lived in So Cal. If the Dr. wins the battle, I will replace it. Colette (grafted) - climber, vigorous growth, great first flush and rebloom early in the season, not so much bloom now in late summer. When I lived in coastal So Cal I had Prospero (grafted). I agree with Jeri. This was a wonderful plant. It was my first DA rose ever. When I smelled it at the nursery I had to have it. It was healthy, compact, and had great rebloom. I would like to obtain another one, but have not found a local source. Suspect it will have issues with the heat similar to The Prince. But this little plant was spectacular in So Cal. Janelle...See Moreop hybrid teas vs. op english roses?
Comments (2)Playboy has several well known children, including Scentimental, Betty Boop, and Flutterbye. Blueberry Hill and Hot Cocoa are grandchildren. HelpMeFind doesn't list any descendants for the other roses on your list but at least you can check out their parentage to get an idea of what might be in the gene pool. Just look up each rose of interest at the link below, then click on the "Lineage" tab. Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind search...See MoreQuestion about planting a rose below the dirt.
Comments (10)The only downside to planting roses too deep that I've read about and believe is that the fertilizer has to travel further to reach the roots. I've also read about "cane rot" but haven't seen it happen in my garden. And my roses are planted very deep. When I started this garden, virtually all the roses arrived as own-root bands in Spring 2013 -- some I added the following year, and four I received the year before. All were potted-on in 1- or 2-gal containers to grow a bit as I prepped the new beds. They were planted in late Summer directly into the native soil, and then I raised the beds around them. After all the tree trimmings and mulch and manure, the surfaces of the beds were 6-8" above the ground level, and effectively, the roses were planted 6-8" deeper than the soil level in their pots. They continued to grow and grow and grow. This year is their third year, and while some were hit hard by Winter last year (much less so this year), most are rather shockingly large considering their young ages. I'm sure that if I dug down through all the mulch, composted manure, tree leaves, and coffee grounds I've put down, I'd find that the roses have generated roots along the buried portions of their canes. With budded/grafted roses, this would mean they'd "go own-root over time." Being as mine are already own-root, I figure that it means they have a jump-start on having deep roots for reaching water between the rains, and more shallow roots that have better access to the more nutrient-rich organic matter I've been piling on the beds. Of course, your results may vary depending upon your conditions, but I can say that I've found no ill effects of deep-planting the roses in my garden. :-) ~Christopher...See MoreJohn (PNW zone 8)
6 years agoJohn (PNW zone 8)
6 years agoJohn (PNW zone 8)
6 years agoThanks, Anna-Lyssa - the blooms next to Radio Times belong to a western azalea (Rhododendron occidentale). It's a native deciduous azalea that is very fragrant, especially in the evening.
John (PNW zone 8)
6 years ago
portlandmysteryrose
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6 years agoJohn (PNW zone 8)
6 years ago
Anna-Lyssa Zone9
6 years agoHm Carol, your Tamora and my William look akin in these photos don't you think -
with their geranium friends??:)
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