Outdoors, as long as they don't have wet roots.

Thanks vitorama! That's what I'm leaning towards too right now.

Agreed. We love pictures here.

Oh, mine are just regular Laurentii in a pot, nothing special. I wanted to figure out if they could grow faster outside in the summer. I am thinking about doing a controlled test, but I don't have two identical plants for the test.

I'll definitely post some pictures when they are in a better shape.

We love before and after pictures too. :-)

I warned you. It's very ugly. It's just one leaf (with half an inch rhizome) I planted two weeks ago.

Your plants are very nice. You should eventually get new growth coming up from the rhizome, you just have to be patient. :-)

Good start, next pictures will be better.

Thank guys. I wish I can have some better growth to post here soon.

I found this post by a sans owner from Oregon, and s/he mentioned that his or her sans weren't growing outside in Oregon summer. We have similar lowest temperature here on California central coast. Recently the day high can get to 85F but night low has always been around 48F, and the low temp will remain at around 50F pretty much throughout the whole summer. Now I'm not sure if it is still a good idea to keep my sans outside at night time.

Maybe I should just bring them out in the morning when temp reaches 60F and bring them back before nightfall?

I still say outside. They can take 50 degree temps no problem. It is your cool wet winters that will be a problem. I suggest you cover them with a clear plastic canopy in the winter so they still get lots of sun but you can regulate the water. In fact, you might not want to water them at all.

Gotcha. Let's see how well they can grow here. Maybe I can do an experiment by keeping one cutting outside and another cutting inside next to a bright window and see which one grows better.

I think I'll have to take them inside before the first winter rain. Last winter we had a deluge. It could rain nonstop for many days here. That would definitely kill those sans.

You know what, Stush, I have been thinking about exactly the same thing. I have been thinking about finding an energy neutral way to preserv temperature, i.e., not using electricity. And water tanks for heat buffering is top on my list.

Well. Before I get that done, I will just keep moving then back indoor every night...

The ''... plastic milk jugs painted black...'' reminds me of an old question. There is a dye for reflecting pools. It is called 'black' and looks black but is a really, really very dark purple.

If one put this in their water would it absorb more heat?

That's really fancy. I'm beginning with using dark colored milk carton without painting...

You can use any kind of heat sink like a brick painted black. Use black weed barrier and the soil will warm up more than it would......

Anyway I have never had trouble with Sans and 50 degrees over night in the summer outside. Your plants should be fine.

Albert, I used to work in a water gardening nursery and we used that dye in our displays often. I don't believe it raises the water temp, in fact, it is used often for weed control because it "shades" the water by not allowing sun to penetrate through to the plants below.

I remember a fifth grade science experiment where we put white paper over an ice cube and black paper and put in the sun. In less than 14 minuets the one in the black paper was melted while the one in the white paper was just starting to get wet.

Under the scorching sun in California, I have to buy light colored containers whenever I can, usually paying higher prices, because a black pot can get so hot under full sun and burn your hands when touching. We also wrap black containers with tinfoil to reduce the heat at the roots.

White or beige color spray paint should also do the trick for you. I have painted many of my pots and window boxes with earth color tones to help keep them from breaking down due to UV light rays from the sun.

Loving that Jade "Gollum" in your pic!!! I collect Jades and Sans, always looking out for new varieties!

Glad you like it, Mary. My jade would have been much bigger if it were not badly damaged by termite tenting two years ago. That was a cold winter. I moved my jade away from the poisonous tent as far as I could, but still it got badly damaged by the fume. Half of it turned black and rotted away, but it survived and has been slowly recovering. I didn't know the fume was that poisonous.

That's one of the reasons I collect Jades, they're had to kill off! Winters here are harsh though, and of my over 30 varieties, I lost about 5 this Winter. (The ones I didn't take to my warm classroom over the Winter) Luckily it wasn't any of my rare ones.... I lost a couple of Sans too!

Yeah. I can imagine zone 6 is indeed too cold for tropical plants like jade and Sans.

This reminds me of a jade plant we found in my wife's grandfather's house when they were putting it on the market to sell. The house was setting for a few years with out heat and when cleaning out the cellar, we found a stem of a old dead jade plant that belonged to his wife. She had died many years before and he never did anything to it for at least 15 years. That stem was still hard and dried. We watered it and it sprang back to life. It was special to my wife since it belonged to her grandmother. Had for many years till our cat clawed it apart.

Totally off topic, what is termite tenting and how could it damage a plant?

That's when they bag off the whole house with plastic and use gas or a strong insecticide to kill all that lives. Don't know if it stains rugs or fixtures. Some times it's the best way to treat insects invading your house. I have heard of bombs used to kill a heavy flea infestation.

On the west coast, termite is a big issue because most family houses are made of wood. Tenting (or fumigation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumigation) has to be done every few years if you want your house to last a long time. The chemical can kill most forms of life and contaminate foods without sealed packaging, but doesn't hurt or stain rugs, beddings, or fixtures. The residue is minimal. But it's still a pain in the neck every few years.

Down South termites are also a big problem. I should explain using a 'Bomb'. It's an aerosol can that locks open and lets an insecticide out filling the area with gas that kills bugs. I don't think this one hurts plants.