I wonder if they’re all pups from a larger plant. Even the two multi leafed sans look like they’re in pots way too large for them. They look healthy but all 3 plants could be combined into one pot size wise. I thought sans like to be root bound sort of. I do have a large pot that’s pretty full with tall ones & another that has short rosette type. They are both in pots that have room for root growth but are full at top.

I agree with you about the pot size being too large for the size of the plants. I was also wondering about the striping on the leaves. I am not familiar with sans looking like that. The one in the middle looks like a different kind of sans. I am not familiar with it.

Depends on the price. If theyre cheap, get them. If not just go to a reputable stockist.

KW your sans is beautiful! All the leaves look great!

KW and floral, do you think the streaky yellow in the leaf is normal? The price is $5 Canadian. Good price?

Each? or for all 3? either way, having converted the price that would be a bargain here.. The yellow leaf wouldn't bother me, although I only have the photo to go on.

newhostalady - is that $5 Canadian for 1 or all 3? That’s less than $4 US so yes a very good price IMO. See the tag on my plant - it was $47 + 8.5% sales tax in a nice nursery. If you buy all 3 I’d think about repotting into one pot. I don’t think the streak of yellow is a problem - normal or not I can’t say but it looks interesting. If the leaf feels ok strength wise, I’d say it’s a plus for the appearance.

Sorry, I should have clarified. The price is $5 each.

KW, your plant for $47 plus tax was pricey, but you got a lovely looking plant. Our good garden nurseries (which are open year round) also offer a guarantee which is a good thing. Our sales tax is 13% which seems to really add to the final cost.

I do know that sans are slow growers. So I have to wonder whether the pot with the one leaf is worth $5. Now if it were something less common, then I think if it was rooted, it might be worth it.

On another thread I post a while back, Tiffany suggested I plant or take a sans outside to grow as I was not happy with it. That turned out to be a very good idea because my original sans wasn't pretty, but outside it grew several new pups! It's always nice to experiment and see what results you get.

I should’ve been more clear too that $47 was Canadian - it was $35 US - pricey but for the size & slow growth not bad. I’ve seen them for @$10 less in the big box stores. Wow 13% sales tax is high! I thought 8.5% was high but it varies much by state with many counties much higher. Then, there are some US states with no sales tax but things like property or income tax are higher than ours. My state - WA - has no income tax but neighboring state - OR - with no sales tax has a high personal income tax. That’s in addition to our federal income tax which we all pay - or are meant to!

KW, I thought you were in the States, and realized that your $35 was US.

Interesting how the taxes can vary so much. Where I am, it has been decided that we are going to have a property tax increase of nearly 10%. The 13% applies to most items, except for groceries. But we are still taxed on snacks and some baked goods.

When I have travelled to the US, it has been refreshing to have a lower tax rate applied.

That’s quite a property tax increase! Ours has quite a variance even within a city & county. States don’t set property tax but the counties & cities within the counties do. We have the base property tax based on a current value assessment of property made by the assessor’s office. Added to that property tax are bonds & levys which are voted on by the people within the counties & cities. The bonds & levys are for schools within a specific school district, libraries in the county, police & fire protection, emergency services (ambulance) etc. All pretty complicated. There is a county wide program for base property tax assistance in the form of discounts for seniors with limited income. That income threshold is determined by inflation & cost of living factors so it’s adjusted periodically. I think when US citizens travel to Canada, they like the buying power of US dollars. I understand liking the lower tax rate enjoyed when in US - I only have to drive 20 minutes to Oregon to enjoy their $0 sales tax compared to my city 8.5% on non-food items!

Interesting how things can differ between countries. We don't have the added bonds and levys that you have. It does sound complicated! We do have discounts for seniors also. It is a good deal for US citizens coming to Canada and shopping. But I have to say that there is a lot more choice in the US compared to Canada. I also find that many prices for the same items cost more in Canada.

Yes - I understand about the prices for same items being higher in Canada than US. When I lived in Seattle area, I knew of many Canadians who routinely made shopping trips to Bellingham, WA from areas in British Columbia. Shipping costs seem to be a huge factor in higher prices. Maybe customs tariffs too.

Kathy

I know this is an old post, but I didn't see anyone mentioning that when a cutting of a variegated sans is rooted, the plant that subsequently grows is the species plant. That's why those sans look weird. To get the same plant as the original, a portion of the rhizome needs to be included with the leaf.

Deanna

Thanks for your comment gardenfanatic!

Well, what happened was I did go to see the plants with the expectation of buying one. But the owner said I could have the three he had left. So I took them.

They looked like they were not in good media and were planted too deep, so I repotted to find that two of the plants had no roots at all and one had just a few roots. So I decided to experiment and plant two in soil and keep one in water. Would love to hear of any suggestions or comments about what will actually happen with these plants.

My hope is that they will grow roots and then produce healthy looking offsets.

I will take photos and post.

IDK if it will make a difference but I always root sans in perlite to eliminate the possibility of rot.

That's a good point gardenfanatic.

Here are pictures. The one in water has one root growing!

"I know this is an old post, but I didn't see anyone mentioning that when a cutting of a variegated sans is rooted, the plant that subsequently grows is the species plant. That's why those sans look weird. To get the same plant as the original, a portion of the rhizome needs to be included with the leaf."


I'm having trouble squaring this statement with the fact that both leaf and root are parts of the same clone and genetically identical. How can they produce genetically different plants? If you take leaf cuttings you get duplicate plants, not different ones. You do not have to include a piece of rhizome. https://www.rhs.org.uk/propagation/leaf-cuttings

What gardenfanatic said is true. I have experienced that. Probably have a propagated leaf in pot that I can show you.

@floraluk2 if you don't believe me, try it with a variegated sans that's not a species variety.

OK. I stand corrected. But you have to admit it's very weird behaviour. How does a piece of cloned genetically identical plant material produce something different?

IDK why. I suspect it has something to do with the plant being a sport of the species.