No, they just used weasel words, "up to 20%." So, if the rose is 10% off - that's technically true.

The only austin I'm in need of is Queen of Sweden, and it isn't even on sale at all, a 1 gallon plant was going to be $41 plus shipping.... no thank you.

I hate to speak badly about any rose growing nursery these days but sheesh! They are making it difficult.

Heirloom is making it difficult....for themselves in the end. They are quickly becoming the rose nursery we love to hate. No business can survive for long in an atmosphere of distrust and dissatisfaction from its customers, negative conditions the business itself created.

Moses

Knoxrose, you might check antiqueroseemporium.com to see if they have Queen of Sweden. I just ordered Abraham Darby from them, a two gallon plant, own root, for $19 plus shipping. Diane

Wow I'm a dork! I swear I looked at the website header mentioning the sale and thought it said "all English roses 20% off!" Guess I need new glasses. LOL

Well at least (to date) heirloom hasn't given me spider mites.

Chambee's is now on my "do not order list."

Don't fret Beth, you're not the first to fall for their sleazy tactics. First they were having these pathetic "sales" marking things at no more than 10% off. Now they advertise 'up to' 20% off and what irritates me the most, is that they still list the prices of all their roses as the band prices, but we all know they are no longer selling bands. So all roses are actually $10 more than the "sale" price listed. I am so over them!

"WEASEL WORDS " love it, love!!

It's sad. I wouldn't even consider ordering from them anymore, except that they have a handful of roses I want to get as replacements.. that noooobody else has! The two I want most haven't been available for at least a yr, maybe more. They are GITTE and GREAT EXPECTATIONS. And I wouldn't mind replacing WELL BEING... but not for that much money. Oh well, guess I don't really need them do I? LOL

I was going to add, I'm a lawyer and technically correct is the best kind of correct, but it does seem unsavory when dealing with roses of all things.

Also, I wonder if Heirloom knows about the ill will they've sown in the rose world. They are a name brand and a good place to go for healthy plants but I'd think rosarians rather than the person looking for the occasional rose are their true customer, and they've done a great deal to alienate that core customer.

Thanks for the heads up Pat, but she does not ship to CA, unfortunately.

Beth, I would second the nomination of Long Ago Roses. Unfortunately, Linda no longer ships to Cali.

Linda is great, and the way she packs she can send four rose bands in flat rate box for a much lower shipping cost. Linda and Burling are the best at keeping shipping costs low so that you're paying for roses, instead of paying the postal service.

(frugal) John

edit...whoops, Beth, see you've already checked Long Ago, lol. I had the window open too long before I wrote my comment :P I was trying to find another source for Gitte and Well Being.

Jackson & Perkins uses the weasel words all the time, but then I would expect that from them, now that they are J&P in name only. Diane

"Weasel words"...my new favorite derogatory phrase, lol.

I will also highly recommend long ago roses! Linda is wonderful and the roses from her did exceptionally well over my winter.

I have had healthy plants from Heirloom. I'm also hoping they are RMV free. I'm on the fence about band vs gallon. They each have their virtues. I do like own root.

I've received nice plants from Heirloom, but honestly, I've given up on them.

I have received nice plants from them as well. I have also received very nice plants from Chamblees, Angel Gardens, Rogue Valley Roses, Rose Petals Nurseries, Roses Unlimited and K&M roses (on Fortuniana) for much cheaper. Chamblees is my go to. I just wish they had more variety. Them and Roses Unlimited as RU has everything :)