How to mitigate acid in ketchup
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Comments (11)Yup, some of us like vinegar. Thats one of the main ingredients in make Japanese shushi and California rolls. They adde rise wine vinegar to the cooked rice and also to many of the items that are rolled in it. I have found powdered vinegar too, but its only the flavor and none of the acidity. I still have some 20% vinegar too and use this only if I want a lot of acid with little added water. Ketchup is a good candidate for that. I have found that even though many recipes for sweet pickles call for several pounds of sugar, that if you use Splenda, you can get nearly the same 'taming down' that sugar would do. A 5 pound bag of sugar in a sweet pickle recipe equates to only about a cup of Splenda.. Even the maker never knew this, but because I must avoid most sugar now, Splend has been a godsend and works great in every sweet pickle I make. There are a some mixes made by Ball and Mrs. Wages that also add a small amount of modified food starch (Clear Jel) which helps to control the watery liquid seperation. Its a small enough amount that it doesn't affect the consistancy or safety. Some might think that the Clear Jel would be used to thicken a watery ketchup, but thats not what its for. For ketcup, I remove the seeds and watery centers of meaty plum tomatoes. Then they get run through a Villaware food strainer and you already have the consistancy of a tomato sauce. Cooking it down some will thicken as well adding dried tomato powder, tomato paste, along with other dried items like ground dried onion, garlic, peppers, and of course dried spices....See MoreFlavor -- Acid Sweet Fruity -- Golden Gem Hybrid from Park's
Comments (4)Jan and Dave, You both use the term "complex." What does that mean? Is it the same as "balance", which after googling some more, I have learned is not too much sweet or acid, as in wine. Or does complexity add something else? By the way, I found a free glimpse of a paper indicating that high acid and high sugar together do in fact correlate with high flavor. I also learned that the acid content declines once the tomato ripens past "breaker" stage, whatever that is. Maybe that explains why I don't like tomatoes after they have been sitting out for more than a day or so, unless they were green when they started. It would seem that you need to eat a tomato once it is ripe, because left out it loses acid, and in the fridge it loses sugar! The black tomatoes came up when I googled "complex tomato flavor," along with a few others I can add to the list. I should search the forum with that term. Black Cherry for example. BTW, I am looking for early tomatoes, and also for varieties that will live through the hot summer and start bearing again in fall. We have a long spring and a long fall. Thanks so much for the recommendations and comments on my list!...See MoreMaking ketchup out of Tomato powder
Comments (9)Here's how I use it and it will probably help you get past the "powder" part. Find a homemade ketchup recipe you like that includes tomato paste or tomato sauce (or both). THEN, make the paste/sauce with water and tomato powder and add the other ingredients and follow the recipe. Same goes for bbq sauce, which commonly has a tomato paste or tomato sauce base. Make the tomato powder into paste or sauce first. I usually follow a 3:1 ratio for tomato paste - 3 parts water to 1 part tomato powder 4:1 ratio for tomato sauce- 4 parts water to 1 part tomato powder OR - for 1/2 c. tomato sauce mix 1/8 c. (2 T.) tomato powder + 1/2 c. water. To make tomato juice: Mix as thick as you like (adding tomato powder to the water a little at a time). Add a dash of Fruit Fresh and a little salt - or Tabasco and/or Worcestershire Sauce Quick Pizza Sauce (12\-inch pizza): 1 T. tomato powder 3 T. water (more or less depending on thickness you like) a little sweetener of choice a little vinegar pinch of salt (optional) spices (Italian or Pizza Spices) Blend ingredients and top pizza with the sauce and add other toppings of choice. I use 1 t. tomato powder + water for individual pizzas. \-Grainlady...See MoreMeatloaf without Ketchup?
Comments (29)Don't know of anyone over 8 years old who would throw a tantrum over a ketchup bottle sitting on a table! LOL Learn something every day! Speaking of tantrums, I had almost forgotten about The Great Ketchup War over meatloaf, and that's probably about 8 years ago now too. How time flies....See More- 9 years ago
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