Will Thuja Green Giants regrow after deer browsing, etc
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Unhealthy Thuja 'Green Giant'
Comments (8)If the pine bark fines were less than 1/3 of the backfill and at least the other 2/3 was native soil, and, the soil was well mixed, then that isn't likely to be a problem. It probably didn't help, but is unlikely to be the source of the problem. Sounds like maybe the watering was OK too, but I would recommend keeping a close eye out for moisture in the original rootball as well as the surrounding soil. When the soil in the rootball varies significantly from surrounding soil, it's possible for the rootball to completely dry out while surrounding soil is still moist. Sometimes it is hard to say what causes failure. Since only the one tree seems to be affected (and I would confirm this with a good inspection of the others), look for anything that could vary from the other trees. Variations in soil, animal damage, drainage variation, etc. should all be considered. I've planted more 'Green Giants' than I could easily count, and my success rates (at least for the trees where I have been responsible for first year after care) has been near 100%. I have had failures with trees though that I couldn't explain. I have a small pawpaw orchard, and in just one spot, every tree I planted died. I went through about four trees. Finally I moved that one planting spot over just a few feet for the last replacement. The new tree grew great and the only ramification is one tree that's just a little out of place in my orchard....See MoreGreen Giant Thuja question
Comments (27)We live 30 miles north of Kansas City and was worried that we might live too far north for these trees to thrive, but we loved they way they looked and thought we wouldn't know unless we tried. So,,, after talking to Mike at the Botony Shop in Joplin, Missouri, we decided to give them a try. We bought 430 of the 18 to 24 inch size Thuja Green Giants from Mike (http://www.botanyshop.com/index.htm) right before they were going to be transplanted to the next size container in August of 2007. Mike has been extremely helpful and has taken care of us any time we had any problems or questions! We planted them in two rows (rows being 10' apart) and staggered the trees, and planted the trees 5' apart from each other because we wanted a quick privacy hedge. They are absolutely beautiful trees! We learned the hard way, these trees require a lot of water! We have them on a drip system and water once every week or 10 days depending on the summer heat. The first year we lost over 100 of them because we live on a hill and didn't give the tiny trunks any protection from the bitter cold north wind. The 2nd and 3rd years, near the last day of November, we sprayed each tree with Wilt-Pruf and placed hay about 12 - 18" tall around all sides of each tree. That was a lot of work but it paid off. We didn't lose hardly any trees due to the cold north wind zapping the moisture out of them. We have some that were planted in heavy clay soil and those grow much slower than the others planted in good soil. This last year we ran into a new problem - spider mites! One or two 15 - 20' tall trees died in each row. We couldn't figure out what was going on because all the trees around them were green and healthy!! So, after all we've learned, we think we're finally going to have a great beautiful windbreak! We have learned that these trees require good heavy watering up to the first day of January in our planting zone. When there are warm days during the cold winter season, we water them then also. It's hard to treat evergreens because you don't realize they are stressing from something until it's too late! The only other issue we have with them is bagworms. Since we've sprayed them every June for bagworms, we haven't had anymore problems. So, in summary, water well, spray for bagworms yearly and spider mites twice during the summer months, protect from cold wind when they're small, and you'll have a beautiful windbreak that's well worth the work!!! The trees in the pic I've posted are now approximately 25' tall and growing by leaps and bounds. Little cotton tail's and birds of all kinds now have a safe haven!!! Oh, and deer don't bother the green giants at all!!! They walk right past them!!!...See MoreThuja Green Giant Privacy Screening Project Advice
Comments (36)Thanks for all of the advice guys. @ davidrt28 - thanks for the advice and ordering info @ kato_b , tsugajunkie - the larger 5 gallon plants don't look as bad. there is still some green, but they don't look that great. I actually started planting the smaller trees further back from the road because I was worried about the salt spray. I think they're around 28ft from the road and have those hedges in between the road and small trees. I thought that would have been enough protection... also before they even started salting last fall, they were starting to turn orangish. @ davidrt28 - nope.. I didn't fertilize them @ tsugajunkie - thanks for that link, I may have to look into a different species what a discouragement ... it would have been nice to see the majority survive after all the time and money I put into the project I'm thinking the best thing to do is look for several species that's resistant to salt spray and add a mix of trees This post was edited by duke90 on Thu, May 2, 13 at 0:53...See MoreLooking to buy large amount of Thuja Green Giant.
Comments (15)Can someone tell me: 4) If it is really necessary to mulch on top? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROPERLY WATER THEM.. OVER A 400 PLANTING .. ERGO .. YOU NEED MULCH TO MAKE WATER LESS PROBLEMATIC ... OR AN IRRIGATION LINE 5) Do they take care of themselves as far as water and nutrients? Or is it going to be constant tending. NO NEWLY PLANTED PLANT.. CAN TAKE CARE OF WATER BY ITSELF ... DURING THE FIRST YEAR ... ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU PROBABLY ALREADY MISSED PRIME PLANTING TIME.. IN YOUR ZONE ... SEE LINK BELOW ... AS TO FERT.. THEY WILL NEVER NEED ANY FERT.. THEY ARE TREES.. NOT CHILDREN.. THEY WONT GET HUNGRY ... AND I PLANTED IN SAND ... 6) What spacing is good. The website says 5' to 6' apart for a tight screen. I see others saying 4' apart. What do you think? SPACING IS TUNED TO YOUR GOAL ... AND HOW LONG YOU DONT MIND WAITING FOR THAT GOAL TO BE ACHIEVED ... IF YOU WANT TO HIDE THE NEIGHBORS YESTERDAY.. YOU BUY LARGE PLANTS.. AND PLANT THEM CLOSE TOGETHER... IF YOU HAVE MORE TIME THAN MONEY.. YOU PLANT THEM FURTHER APART ... AND LET THEM GROW UP ... ===>>>> enough of those caps ... i THINK you are a novice ... so the following things cross my mind ... forgive me if i presume wrong : i think your nuts going for 100 all at once ... over the hundred years these might live .. there is no need to plant them all at once ... whenever you plant in multiples.. expect some loss ... its just the odds ... never plant in a straight line ... the common shovel is 6 feet long.. use it to measure [measure yours first, and act accordingly] ... and weave in and out over the 400 hundred feet ... if you want less than 6 feet ... just put some tape on your shovel at the mark you want ... see link.. all trees should be bare rooted and planted in native soil ... the only thing pots will give you now.. is flexibility in planting time ...you can hold them in pots longer.. if life gets in the way ... small plants can be planted with the dibble method ... and you can use a common shovel to do it.. no need for the actual dibble .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhqa3yeLxhk as noted.. timing of planting is imperative ... and your probably past that date in your area ... its all about when the heat of summer is going to hit.. and whether the plants can get settled in and pumping water.. before such ... if i were you.. to start the learning curve.. i might order 20 or so.. and then more for the next proper planting season.. probably fall.. after the heat of summer ends ... it will be more visually interesting.. over the years.. if they vary in size ... who really wants a 400 foot green curtain ... so plant every third or forth one ... and then in the next session ... plant every second ... etc ... any that die from this planting.. can be filled in with the next phase ... coffee buzz... maybe i will come up with more.. later.. lol .. lots to think about ... [its so bad.. i cant find my coffee cup for more.. lol .. maybe thats a good thing ...] when dealing with trees.. try to think in tree time.. and that is years and decades ... not i want this done yesterday .... ken https://sites.google.com/site/tnarboretum/Home/planting-a-tree-or-shrub...See Morealexiebalexie
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