Where to get a large Arbutus unedo in Oregon?
Dan
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Comments (3)I am glad I have a T. wagnerianus in my zone 7b garden. I list two fairly good sized T. fortunei plants that took two to three years of cold and wind damage to give up trying to recover. Plus we had two winters in a row with rain followed by a quick deep freeze in just minutes. Am I correct that stiffer leaved trachies are apt to be more winter hardy? By the way, it appears that my T. wagnerianus has a different crown structure that looks like it will NOT collect moisture the way the now deceased trachies did....See MoreArbutus unedo (strawberry tree) seedling transplanting; grown in pots?
Comments (3)based on your experience .. i would continue to work with some volume .. to cut odds of failure ... but surely you dont need 200+ there is no reason they cant be potted up and grown on .. maybe 10 ... so by the 3rd repotting you are down to one or two.... if they could not be .. there would be no industry in trees.. of any kind ... dont focus on the tree you have alone.. i suspect when researching info on any part of this project ... just use tree ... e.g media for trees in pots .... etc ... in potting up ... you dont jump immediately to a 25 gal pot ....you move to the next size pot ... every time the roots grow out the bottom ... you might want to look into bonsai also ... a system of root pruning.. to make large things small ... i often say... fear your success ...lol ....but seriously ... just because they sprouted.. doesnt mean you have to keep them ... with trees in pots.. the biggest key.. is the media ... ken...See Morecould Arctostaphylos be grafted onto Arbutus unedo?
Comments (21)The problem is the imprecision with which we (people generally, not just gardeners) use the term humidity. There are plenty of places that are always very humid but never have high dew points. For example somewhere like the Scilly Islands - coastal UK generally - and the west coast of NZ. The extremely warm nights in the SE US are more related to their dew points being very high. But I've noted Brighton in early Sept. was a bit muggier than I expected it to be. The Pacific waters north of Santa Barbara CA probably stay below 60F all year, while the English Channel might have been as warm as 65F? Thus making the air a little more humid: though still in a place that is quite far north and where the overall atmospheric circulation is with relatively dry, comfortable air. There's no superheated Gulf of Mexico pumping sauna like air, as happens to us in the eastern 2/3rds. Some friends of my parents who are Irish but have lived in the States for 30 years admitted to being back in Ireland and finding the air uncomfortably muggy sometimes, because they had become used to eastern USA air conditioning and our very dry interior air in buildings. I experienced the same thing in AU & NZ. People just don't "sweat" (no pun intended) the air being a little muggy in a building. (or in one case the train: the supposedly luxury "Tranzalpine" train in NZ felt like a damp locker room to me. The carriages are tightly sealed because the diesel locomotives have to go through some tunnels...but they really need a damper that opens for the rest of the trip. I found it vaguely disgusting. It makes the odors of other people carry over more than they otherwise would. The California Zephyr also has to close the vestibules to pass through the Moffat Tunnel: but in a place with the bone dry air of the Rockies, being sealed up to the outside is a *good* thing!) Further complicating this, however, is the the ultimate culprit with many plants (but not all) is probably soil temperature, and the somewhat related factors soil structure and degree of moisture variability. So this explains why ironclad rhododendrons like 'Mars' are seen in southern Japan and not the SE USA. We have the triple whammy of searing sunny periods to warm the soil up, which is clay with a terrible structure, and sudden, voluminous downpours in summer to saturate the soil and drown roots. While Southern Japan has aerated volcanic soil, cloudier summers, and more steady rainfall. Even though the raw dew point and temperature averages are probably similar to parts of the SE US....See MoreWhere to buy Arbutus unedo or ‘Marina’ in Central Texas?
Comments (39)Final tip about these...why let this thread stop at 35 or wherever we are now haha! Ericaceous plants are not hungry hungry hippos. Although they may tolerate and even appear to grow faster with regular feeding, my personal belief is it can be skirting disaster. Not going to go find an article connecting over-fertilization to root rot but I bet I could find >> 1. This genus, especially, really wants 'benign neglect'. Sure it would be different if you were growing, say, blueberries on sandy soil. In fact I just fertilized one of my blueberries that seemed to be lagging with a bit of ammonium sulfate, we will see if it perks up this year. Anecdotes and opinions are what they are but, the 2nd set of pics at the NCSU link above are of a hybrid strawberry tree in London. They are a feature of gardens there. In 2010 I saw a stunning one in Rye, a solid zone 9 town on the south coast of the UK, but later read at a gardening forum that it had died. I succinctly remember it had been underplanted with a lush assembly of shade perennials that SCREAMED 'we're being heavily fertilized'. The Cyclamen coum were already blooming and so big they looked like houseplants! So, house changes owners, new owner wants beautiful plants under their strawberry tree, fertilizes them and...bam...the water moulds loved the fertilizer, too! And took out the tree! So we can't be sure that's what happened, but something to be aware of. In almost 15 years I've fertilized mine no more than 2-3 times with scant amounts of Miracle Gro (no need for Miracid here, already incredibly acidic soil!) and it's done just fine. I've repeated it ad naseum, but the case of the Camellia 'Aida' in my garden and one very close by, grown by a PhD horticulturalist at Longwood...pretty conclusively proves to me the already known connection between too much nitrogen and a failure to harden for winter. First PV winter, mine had a tiny bit of scorching on the leaf edges, the one he was heavily fertilizing so he could size it up for breeding purposes died so dead it couldn't even come back from the roots! UPDATE: was reading an excellent page about the hybrid - I didn't know it seldom fruited but that makes sense. So it's a big trade off to lose the fruits I think! https://www.architecturalplants.com/product/arbutus-x-andrachnoides/...See MoreSara Malone (Zone 9b)
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