How hot exactly does it get there for you, lois?

Lois, I grow a four year old Crepuscule and it is planted in a spot that takes full sun most of the day. It seems to like its spot and no problems with bloom frying.

Also, maybe set up your houzz account to accept messages from you profile. I did not see that option.

I live north of Raleigh.

Patty

Hi Comtesse, We got 4-5 days (not in a row) of 100 degrees last summer, and upper 90s for several days in a row, about 3 different times.

Hi Patty, I think I found the setting you mentioned and changed it to accept messages. I'm glad to hear that about Crepuscule. Does it work ok in a bouquet? I have this vision of a bouquet of frothy shades of pink, with a dash of soft apricot provided by Crepuscule.

Crepuscule grows well for me here in Zone 8b/9a in full sun, she does not like cool araes as she will mildew. The other things she does take a while to establish, so more than one might be in order for your fence.

I can't speak as to your conditions, but can say that both these varieties, in my garden, will get about as big as you allow them to. How much space are you talking about? Also it occurs to me to wonder about the picket fence solution: height, and maintenance. Both are lax, trainable kinds, but a picket fence seems low even so.

Not really what you asked, but Crepusucle is one of the prettiest climbers. I always love it in the pictures I see and it's on my shortlist.

Its a fairly long fence, about 4 ft high. Treated and stained wood so i dont expect it to rot anytime soon. My plan/hope is to plant each climber about 20 feet apart and they can eventually meet and mingle in the middle.

I have MAC and Crepuscule in full sun here in NE FL zone 9a. They are in sun from morning till night. I originally got MAC for a more shaded situation but when she was a baby, I set her 3 gallon pot down against a trellis in full sun to kinda get her going. She grew up that trellis and is currently 10ft. She really seems happy right now and her flowers don't fry, even in the summer. So I might leave her there for awhile but I have a feeling she will hog too much space so she will probably get moved to another full sun situation- if I can find room. I'm on almost 4 acres but most of it has big trees on it, so I'm always looking for climbers that like a little bit of shade.

Crepuscule, of course, loves full sun.

I love my MACs. I am in a warmer zone than you, however. My MACs bloom here 12 months of the year (have blooms right now). Mine are in partial shade for their lower halves, and then full sun at the top (they climb up trees here). I have never seen a fried bloom on any of the three we have.

Jackie

I had MAC growing over (not along) a wood rail fence in Sierra foothills California. It was in full sun, and performed wonderfully, flowers and foliage. Being of fairly lax growth, it draped over the fence, building up several layers of stems and covering about 8 feet of the fence after a few years. I loved that rose, and this fall planted a new baby MAC to grow on a lightly shaded fence at my new home. I'd say go for it, Lois.

I can't say enough good things about Crepescule. It's a noisette, so it's practically a native to the SE. It is one of the few roses in my yard that is bullet proof, no blackspot ever. I guess if it bloomed more or had a fragrance that would add points, but it's a great rose.

I agree about crepuscule. In Austin, Tx it's tough, disease free, loves the heat, blooms well and wants to be huge.

I have both here and they seem happy with sun and heat. We had a couple of weeks of 100 F last summer. Just an aside, I'm not sure I'd put those two next to each other color wise. OTOH I've no doubt done worse on my color selections like PAoKent where a cool pink would have been better. I also put Rosarium Uetersen where a deep pink would have been better. I apparently look at photos on HMF and and ignore coral when the photos show pink and coral. This seems to happen with roses I have not met in person.

Hi Sheila,

you could be right... My minds eye was seeing something like the combo of crepusule and the hybrid musk in the following link:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p4oz8MmQrTI/U12aYBo8wRI/AAAAAAAAIdw/F3b6yU3wOtw/s1600/roses-35.jpg

I know MAC has some pink, but most of the pictures show her as almost white, so I figured it would work. If not, I can always move one of them to clamber on rebar in front of the neighbor's 10 ft high fence on the other side of the yard. :-)

Lovely photo, Lois! My MAC is flushed a bit pink and not really white, but you could try and see what color they are for you. This variable color thing makes choosing placement a little more difficult. I have just left my less ideally located roses where they are, if they look happy, and I am hoping they "change color" which they might do. I'm hoping my coral tinged roses get pinker. It is hot here, so I think they might.

Hi, Lois. My MAC is tough and lovely! MAC is planted over a French drain, she is in a somewhat neglected part of the garden, she gets no morning sun and all afternoon sun, she blooms late spring through late fall, she has a delicious fragrance, she gets a touch of blackspot here and there but just sheds the leaves and grows replacements, and she wants to grow big as well as beautiful. In the spring, MAC's blooms have a blush cast, especially in the bud and early bloom stage. Gorgeous! They fade to silky white. Summer through most of fall, her blush buds turn white quickly in the west sun. I've never seen a fried bloom. She does get regular water in the dry season. Her canes are pliable when young but become stiff with age. I don't grow Crepuscle but am very familiar with that lovely apricot confection. If I were choosing between the two and both were healthy and hardy in my region, I'd choose by color preference. Carol

crepusule was easy to grow and the foliage was very pretty all year round never had problems with diseases of any kind in Houston,tx where it's humid and hot almost all the time