Staining wood darker--Minwax PolyShades
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Comments (6)Is this raw wood new construction, unfinished furniture or recently stripped? *** Existing Kitchen Table; not sanded down yet (still in use) Stains and poly don't have an indefinite shelf life. Get fresh and reduce your risk for a few dollars. If it goes wrong, you're looking at a lot more expense and time to undo and redo. *** Sounds like some experience here. *** What kind of stain ??? Alot of confusing choices. What should I gravitate towards ? ...shy away from ??? *** MinWax brand ? Oil-Based ? Gel ? Stay away from PolyShades. MinWax Polyurathane...Satin? Semi-Gloss ? Gloss ? A - Sand with ___ grit sandpaper (using Palm Sander) > Start with a grit coarse enough to smooth it out, but not so coarse that it creates more damage. Once it's smooth, subsequent sandings just reduce the scratch pattern to a finer one. B - Dust off / wipe down with wet rag / let dry > Dry rag will work. Dampened with mineral spirits if you want. If you dampen with mineral spirits, you will get a preview of what the wood looks like with finish only (no stain). *** Regular HD/L Mineral Spirits good enough ? C - Re-sand with ___ grit sandpaper > Keep going up to about 180 to 220. You can skip a grit if you want in this sequence: 100-120-150-180-220. If you're using a pad sander, I'd recommend hand sanding the last grit or two. You don't want pigtails. *** the 180 & 220 by hand; the courser ones by Palm Sander D - Dust off / wipe down with wet rag / let dry > same E - Stain with rag; let dry overnite > Be sure to wipe off and not leave heavy stain on surface. Depending upon the wood species (and choice of stain) you may get blotching. Whatcha got? *** I can't identify it...probably not too great - bottom of chairs say "Made in Malaysia". Has a cream-colored opaque finish that's pretty much "done". F - Rub down with steel wool (grade of steel wool ????___) >>>> NO - Not steel wool. Not needed now and not under any coat of finish. It can leave metal shards that can rust and leave ugly spots. *** There will be no steel wool ! G - Dust off / wipe down with wet rag / let dry > You don't abrade after the stain, so you won't have anything to wipe off. H - One more coat of stain > Usually not needed. But again, depends upon your choice. You might do this to adjust your color to your liking. *** OK. I - Dust off / wipe down with wet rag / let dry >ditto - no abrasion here J - Put on a coat of polyurathane > I'd never use less than 4 coats of poly. Less and less thinning as coats progress. Sanding to dull the surface to create a mechanical bond and to remove defects is important between each coat. P400 sandpaper and light gray Scotch-Brite. Apply "as little as possible to ensure complete coverage" at each coat. Thick poly coats lead to brush marks, curtains, and plastic-looking finish. *** OK. 'light grey Scotch Brite' ??? I'm lost on this one. K - Let it dry > yep L - Put it back in the Kitchen *** Thank you so much !!! This will be a new 'adventure'...still in a NY winter - so likely won't start till later on... Again - thank you for steering me in the right direction !!!...See MoreAdding stain to clear coat OK?
Comments (6)I did some web surfing after you guys mentioned the gel and found this: Minwax® Woodsheen® A wipe-on gel which combines oil stain with a soft lustre top-coat. And just yesterday I'm at Home Depot asking the clerk if there was any one coat product that would give me a finished wood or "faux" finished wood look and he tells me "no". I bet this stuff was right next to the stain and clear coat he got for me. There was also something on the website called: "Minwax® PolyShades® A one-step stain and finish that provides rich wood color and durable polyurethane protection." Now this stuff sounds about like what I would get if I mixed some stain in with the clear coat. We had our maple cabinets finished by a pro and somehow he got the crown molding which was a different wood with different natural color to come out the same color as the cabinets. When I look close, there is no visible grain in the finished molding but the color is an exact match to the cabinet. I would have liked to get this same effect on the shoe molding but don't know how he did it. Working close to the floor like this just kills my back, so I'm looking to finish this job with as few steps as possible....See MoreNeed wood staining help
Comments (11)lazygardens wrote on Fri, Aug 30, 13 at 11:45 Polyshades coverage is extremely hard to control, especially in the darker shades, and your furniture will probably end up streaky and blotchy. I've tried it and although I'm a good painter, I couldn't get it to look good. WAIT until you have time to do a proper job of painting or re-finishing, and for now, give everything it a thorough cleaning, waxing and buffing. Your husband won't be looking at the furniture. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For the most part I agree,esp the last statment but if the funiture is to be refinished at a later date,waxing can make it even more challanging to clean the surface. If the product used to clean and wax contains silicone,it's near certain future refinishing will not go well. I believe failure to instruct a novice to clean the surface accounts for many failed attempts. If One asked similar questions about pieces that were to be handed down through generations,a totaly different response would be called for. I have gone as far as suggesting a person do nothing or consult a professional with piece in hand. I stand by the notion that despite all thier inprefections, single step stain varnish has it's place. At any rate that's not the main point I want to make here. IMHO,those who attempt helping new comers should consider what thier goal realy is and offer suggestions with that in mind. I hazzard to guess half the people who come here looking for advice are doing thier project for sense of accomplishment more than to attain prefection. We have drawings,paintings and craft projects given to use by our kids and grandkids who are adults now. We value them not for how they compare but for the sperite in which they were presented. You have probily heard lessons learned the hard way stay with you longer. I can say from experience that is so true. Right or wrong,I felt Lullaby A, Needed somthing to keep her busy. AND B. Want's to make her husband's homecoming exciting in as many way as possiable. AND C. Just maybe rather than feel depressed over not having money to order new furniture,she is making the best of what she has until new stuff is possible( something if the whole world did,it would be wonderful). Now that I have put myself out on a limb,feel free to saw it off behind me because I feel I can still learn a thing or two as well....See MoreAnderson 400 series wood interior decorative pieces
Comments (7)Sorry for the delay. Here is a picture one of the windows. You can see some moisture now to note, this is right after someone showered and the moisture is under control in the house now. However, you can also see where the damage was already done and continues for example int he corners. We had initially small formations of water in those areas and caused the wood to sort of discolor and bubble up. Also, near the window you can see where it is dark, that spot is where the heaviest moisture was and ended up stripping the poly from the window so the wood is now unprotected. I think the extension jams (i think is what it is called) need to be replaced in this instance which is fine. The part where it is more challenging is that decorative piece. I did pull off some of these already and sanding them while still leaving the decorative edging is very time consuming trying to remove the residual poly and stain. This is where i was i am trying to figure out do i buy new or is there a different way of doing this that i can freshen them up but not have to be so meticulous in getting all the poly off? Paint was my first thought but not sure if i will have the same or more issues if i do that or if paint will look bad that everything is polyed and stain?...See Moreamberm145
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