Thanks Will for your explaining in the way you see this. As you know I'm correcting conifer names here since day one I'm a member of this forum. From most of them it's not traceable who changed or misspelled these names, that's why I've to make the same corrections over and over again. I know I'm a straight talker but remember one thing: Most of the times it were the U.S. nurserymen who made these mistakes because of careless behaviour. Nobody here disagreed with them because they had in mind that these nurseryman had all the wisdom for these names. And then comes a young man from THE NETHERLANDS who's telling here what they're doing wrong. It's my opinion that this is not acceptable by several Americans here, and Dave is one of them because he's too proud to ask me for helping him (yet). Let me tell you this foreign guy is cleaning up the mess here which is created by Americans, and what do I get: A BIG MOUTH from fairfield and cococco, like they are the experts here, speaking about disrespectful. How much help did they provide here, the answer is NON. fairfield, at least I helped you out to pick the right understock for your new Pinus taeda brooms, remember, or do you've a short memory? Like said before, wrong spelled conifers couldn't be traced back in most of the times, but this time I can grab one by it's tail who's trying to fix the ACS database. No new mistakes will go in there. I'm willing to help him, but he has to ask me first and don't messing around by himself because that won't work. Another thing is "my high horse". Several times I showed pics here of my nursery and all the comments were very positive and some where whishing that I should open such nursery in the U.S. This can never happen because from my own experiences I can tell that nobody is so disciplinary as I'm in organizing things in the way I do. The same thing is my way of thinking in conifer names, it must be done in the right way or it shouldn't be done at all, but there's nothing for me in between. So what you're calling "high horse", is discipline for me. cococo, are you a word stutterer? It's very easy, it's just conifer... Fairfield, you must feel lucky that I made 3 U.S. nursery tours. I discovered all their dirty monkeyshines in which they're trying to fool you as buyers of their product... One of these is the false Picea sitchensis 'Bentham's Sunlight' which the Iseli Nursery is planning to sell to you American conifer buyers. I don't need no "thank you" for that, but I don't need a big mouth eiter! Well, that's it for now, I'm curious what kind of answers I'll get for this...

The people on this forum are the nicest people. I have met Glenda, Linda and Bee at get-to-gethers, also a few others. I don't post much but I do love to read what others post, I have learned so much from other people's experiences. I can't believe people jumped all over Glenda, she is the nicest lady you would ever want to meet. BTW, if Glenda sees this I would like her to email me @ elaineinnj@yahoo.com

I really think the consumers would pick the organic/green choice. That has been tested ... consumers, for the most part are price sensitive more than anything. The amount of shelf space dedicated to the "organic" produce in my local grocery store has declined dramatically ... a national management decision to push organic led to 75% of the fresh produce being "organic" and 2x more expensive than the conventional. It immediately slowed sales down (this is a low income town), which meant that the organic produce turned over slowly and was going bad on the shelf, while they couldn't keep the conventional (grown closer) stuff in stock. I pointed out to the produce manager that although I could afford to buy the organic stuff, after lengthy shipping and sitting on the shelf it was flabby and slimy and I was buying conventional elsewhere. Since then, they have reversed the proportions. There is about a 25% organic for the ones who insist and 75% unspecified for the rest of us. As far as garden plants, Bonnie's stuff has the advantage of being grown for the locals. We get a bazillion kinds of chiles favored locally, and short-season or heat tolerant tomatoes.

Congrats on the new car! Nothing is more fun than a brand new car. It is beautiful, and it gets very good reviews too. It will be perfect to haul laundry in. I am like Hmorton with the interior - I would get that beautiful cream color grimy in no time. I have a black interior in my car, and I actually don't like it aesthetically, but it does hide dirt, and that was the consideration that won when I was choosing the interior color. I hear there are treatments one can do to car interiors so that any spills will wipe up and not sink in.