Hated my BlueStar RCS range for 2 years, had it tuned, now I love it!
PiperMc
7 years ago
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Comments (19)My first post! Long time lurker. I wish I saw more threads like this on the RCS when I was researching. I was in the same boat as OP. I had just crossed the AR off the list because I didn't like the grate height (it probably isn't a big deal) and it cost more than an RCS. I had my mind set on the RCS since it seemed like the best deal. $3200 with a 36" 760 CFM hood included. It kept eating at me whether I needed the extra power of the RNB for wok cooking even though I knew true wok cooking would need well over 30k BTU. After an inconclusive test at the showroom, my wife convinced me to just pay the extra $ for the RNB. After living with the RNB for about 6 months now, I don't think I NEEDED the extra power, but I don't regret getting it. Here's why I don't think I needed the extra power. When I try to cook with a real wok, the amount of smoke generated easily overwhelms the hood. Using a stainless steel flat bottom wok on the 15K burner sufficiently sears whatever I throw at it. There's no overloading and stewing the meat like on my old GE Caloric. I try not to think about the giant cost difference between the RCS and RNB for basically getting larger orifices on the burners, more holes on the burners, one ball bearing rack, nicer drip tray, and speckled oven finish. It's enough to switch to an inline blower for hood, that's for sure. But it's a nice luxury to be able to boil a big stock pot a few minutes faster when we have a bunch of friends over to make jam each year....See MoreNew BlueStar RCS!!!
Comments (16)Divamuffinzappa - I checked the Blue Star website, and it appears that their White Glove service in fact applies to all RNB ranges AND all cooktops they offer: 'BlueStar is pleased to announce the launch of our new ÂWhite Glove ServiceÂ. Order and install any BlueStar RNB range or cooktop and a certified service technician will visit your home to fine tune your BlueStar for optimal performance - at no charge.' In the detailed press release of 4/21/08, they say: 'The service allows any BlueStar customer who purchases an RNB range or cooktop  retroactive to April 14, 2008 - the opportunity to schedule complimentary 'fine tuning' of their BlueStar product, following installation.' Since all of their RNB products are, in fact, ranges, it would appear that the service is good for all RNB ranges (but NOT RCS ranges) AND all cooktops in their line. Later in the release, they say, 'The service will also extend to purchases of the companyÂs upcoming wall ovens and drop-in cooktops.' Hard to know exactly what this means - did they not offer wall ovens before? Link is below Here is a link that might be useful: Link to Blue Star 4/21/08 Press Release...See More30" Wolf GR304 vs 30" BlueStar RCS vs 30" BlueStar RNB
Comments (6)What is a "local safety officer"? What do you mean "a bunch of back and forth" with your "local safety officer and Wolf"? What prompted you to use your CO meter to test the levels? They are employed by our BC safety Authority who are the regulators for all regulated work, gas and electrical and such. As a licensed gas fitter I hold my ticket through them and they are the final say when it comes to appliance safety. Permits and approvals for equipment go through them. I chatted at length with him about the stove and he did agree we can’t do anything because it meets ANSI standards being below 800ppm, but he did say he wouldn’t have it in his house. His advice to me was if Wolf won’t do anything to then adjust the burner input by under firing the appliance to bring the CO back inline. I went to Wolf with this information and they said ‘based on your requirements I don’t think Wolf products will be right for you, would you consider a buy back’. Checking CO is very common here in Canada especially when commissioning an appliance. I didn’t mention the CO alarm going off because it never went off, however it did show peak levels in the 15-19ppm range after cooking for a short period of time. Enough to make me concerned with a pregnant wife and 2 yr old. This is what will happen if you in a room where the CO levels are 800 ppm. The ANSI standards are referring to the CO levels in the air coming out of the range vent. 800 ppm air coming out of the vent does not translate to a room concentration of 800 ppm. Especially if you have your ventilation on. Now, if you were getting 250-300 ppm where the cook was standing, that indicates a concentration of way more than 800 ppm out of the vent, and thus a violation of ANSI standards. Either way, those readings were way too high and Wolf's response was poor. Yes, I agree, somewhat. The stove should never be operating at the ANSI levels, your house would build up to a dangerous level of CO over time ie. When cooking a turkey for hours. Our utility will actually shut down any gas range over 540ppm during normal operation. Also they shutdown any other appliance if its over 250ppm while operating. I agree we need ANSI standards but as new homes get built tighter and with less makeup air having a cooking appliance pumping 800ppm at the vent/flue is insane. Consider this regulation was put in place in 1926, buildings have changed considerably since then. So, what happened when you tried adjusting it? Was 250-300 ppm the lowest it would go? That would surprise me, I have adjusted several gas ranges and have usually been able to get them down to 30-40 ppm from as high as 500 ppm. I knew this question would pop up, but yes I went through the full range of what is reasonable on a brand new appliance. Below is what I went through, to try and reduce the CO: Tested inlet pressure, adjusted within 1”wc of manifold pressure. ‘Wolf recommends having inlet pressure within 1” for proper operation’ – no change Checked flip top regulator and it was set to natural gas Checked manifold pressure on stove it was at 5”wc Verified orifice was correct as per spec sheet supplied by Wolf Adjusted air shutter, no change was actually higher and this was the lowest I was able to get the stove to run at CO tests were done after 10-15 minutes of operation and the burners were warm Clocked meter to verify burner input is correct Verified no blockage in burner tube Verified all secondary air ports were free and clear House is still very drafty, so not a lack of air within the house The only thing I never did was under fire it, as I didn't want to go down that road on a brand new piece of equipment. Wolf blew me away with their service and willingness to make a customer happy. From a cooking standpoint however, it will be Bluestar for us....See MoreFinally made a decision, bought a Blue Star RCS
Comments (5)Glad you made the decision to go with Blue Star! You’ll love the performance! The design is fabulous because of the overhang, the knobs stay clean and never get splattered. I don’t even need Bar Keepers friend because with just a wipe with a sponge it’s clean. I use a spray on it once in awhile. When we got our Bluestar I got in touch with Bluestar and they sent out a compliment broiler pan. It doesn’t come with the oven but if you call them they’ll send it to you within a couple of weeks. I have All Clad pots and pans that I have picked up here and there. I LOVE the carbon steel pans, and cast iron. I also have a couple of heavy aluminum pans from either Sam’s or Costco that come in a two pack and you can broil with that too. I use them for roasting veggies and then might use the broil for a couple of minutes. They do fine. That’s all you need. Good luck! You’ll love it!...See MorePiperMc
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