Carol, I hope your surgery went well and the pain isn't too bad. Now take it easy, have some ice cream, sleep, and then play on the computer, Dr Diane's orders. I think I'll rake some leaves and check on rose hips.

Trish, I will check Abe Books out. I did find some pretty reasonable copies of the Raven book on Amazon, plus dozens of other gardening books I want. One thing leads to another. I wish our spring was starting, instead of winter coming up. Diane

Last spring...sigh.