If you are going to grow them in containers, I would stay way, way far away from the GIGANTIC climbers like Madame Alfred Carriere (mine goes up & over the roof of our garage, then has jumped over the fence & climbed more than 30 feet up our neighbor's pine tree) & Sombreuil (ours has grown up an arch, over about 8 feet to our house, and then up to the roof of our 3 1/2 story house). I do not think they would be happy at all in a pot.

There are lots of way shorter, mannerly climbers which I am sure folks on here can tell you about which could go around your window or on a pillar.

Jackie

Thanks Jacqueline... I suspected that might be the case, they are so beautiful though - I bet yours are spectacular! I hate the idea of 'mannerly' plants, although I'm sure that is what I need for now.

I would think a Noisette would work as a climber for a balcony; so many of the older types are described as good pillar roses. I wonder how 'Aimée Vibert' or the fragrant 'Bouquet Parfait' would suit you?

The drawback for many people with the older Noisettes is that they don't drop their flowers cleanly; old flowers need to be removed unless the "used tissue effect" doesn't bother you. I would think deadheading would be fairly easy to do on a balcony, but if it's a task you wouldn't enjoy, some other sort might be preferable.

It might be useful to know what your color preferences are, and if you prefer fragrance to other qualities...

Have fun deciding,

Virginia

Thanks Virginia! They are both pretty but Aimee Vibert is especially lovely with the pink buds against the white flowers, definitely going on my shortlist! How do the noisettes hold up in the heat?

Deadheading is not a problem, it's my pre-work ritual, punctuated by sips of coffee. A nice way to start the day.

in terms of colour I'm open to anything white, cream, any shade of pink, scarlet, peach. Not keen on orange or lilac/purple-pinks, and yellow roses blend too well with our yellow walls. Heat and disease resistance and reblooming ability (since we have limited space they all need to work hard) are more important than fragrance although I would prefer that the Rose has some scent, feels incomplete otherwise, especially as we'll be seated within easy smelling distance!

Thanks Marlorena. Your Mme Berard is beautiful! Do you think it would be too large for a pot given it's got so big in a year?

I remember Daisy from my last thread, she had a spectacular orange Austin growing in a pot under a sunshade - very inspiring in terms of what you can grow in a container (though I don't think my fingers are so green). Colombian Climber looks very pretty and non-stop blooming in that heat sounds very promising, I will check it out.

...yes Mina I remember Daisy's orange rose, I think it was 'Pat Austin' in a pot...

...I think you can grow most things in a large pot, well over here you can, for a reasonable length of time providing you are willing to prune and control, I think you've got to be prepared to do that.. roots and all...

I'm happy to pamper my roses since I don't have many, and repotting and trimming the root ball (scary!) is part of that. Not sure how easy that will be with a climber once it's wound round a pillar though I have to admit!

How about Gruss an Aachen / Irene Watts / Humes Blush tea scented China ? Sounds like they are modestly sized and heat loving, the latter can be grown as a small climber?

How about climbing clotilde soupert? I recently put the bush form in a pot and she is doing great so far but I don't know how the climbing form would do in a pot.

You might like Nahema, Pretty in Pink Eden.

I cannot recommend Pat Austin in a warm climate. She hates the heat and direct sun. Mine does very well in a deep pot, but only because I give her a large sunshade from May until the end of September. She then flowers very happily all through the summer. Any blooms that poke outside of the sunshade, do get fried. She smells of warm ripe mangoes. Delicious.

My Aimee Vibert is planted under a golden plum tree. She is about 20 foot high and is outgrowing the tree. How she would do in a pot, I don't know.

I would imagine that Colombian Climber, would do well in a large pot. It would behave better than Aimee Vibert and flowers for a much longer time. It has a gorgeous scent, which is always there, no matter how hot or cold it is.

Daisy

MinaLoy, that dark pink flower at the base is an ivy-leaved Pelargonium. They are useful for weaving around the base of climbing roses and hiding any bare stems.

By the way, I forgot to mention in my earlier post. When you grow a rose in a pot, line the sides of the pot with thick newspaper. It insulates the roots from the heat of the sun.

Daisy

Thanks to Daisy's enabling Pat Austin photos, I now have 2 of them. They are grafted on Doc Huey and are in large black nursery pots (I know, I need to put them in something prettier lol). They are both in full sun (sunrise to sunset) here in FL and doing really well. Its more humid here, I'm guessing, but this summer has stayed up in the upper 90's and low 100'F and been very untypically dry. The 2 Pats have loved this weather and bloomed on through this horrid heat. I highly recommend Pat for anyone in my climate who might be reading this. Hardly any blackspot at all last summer either when it rained nearly every day. I don't spray at all.

About the Columbian Climber..does that rose have another name in the U.S.? I tried looking for it before and couldn't find it being sold.

~Lenette

Lenette, I believe it is also known as Colombia Climbing. You might try that name.

Daisy

Lenette,

Search for the climbing form of Columbia, supposedly the same rose.

I'd love to grow a couple Colombia cl, but I can't find it . Does anyone know where I can find one in the US/ Canada?

There are several climbing sports of 'Columbia', but I don't think any of them are commercially available in North America.

I believe this is the sport that Daisy has:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.19404

It's a lovely rose, but I think it's one we'll have to enjoy vicariously if we're on the "wrong side" of the Atlantic...

Virginia

Thanks Virginia, it's such a pretty rose! I hope Lynnette has one, she used to have 900 climbers, and she still has a lot after the downsizing........ if we seek really hard, we should be able to find one. Let's hope so. :-)

This morning Lynnette pointed out a lovely rose she gave budwood to Palatine: Monsieur Paul Lede. It's a beautiful rose if you can find one in Italy.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/4171313/palatine-has-my-all-time-fav-climber?n=12

Mons. Paul Lede has been available in Europe as cl. Paul Lede for some time now. I got one from Beales last year.

Monsieur Paul Lede is gorgeous thank you - and I think it is available from an Italian supplier, although the date listed is 1913 not 1902 as in your link and it's called 'Paul Lede' not Monsieur PL . I think it is the same plant though. It is going on my shortlist (not all that short to be honest) - I have another few weeks to decide so will probably visit a nursery at the weekend to do some further investigation (what a hardship ;-) ).

Paul Lede might just be too large for a pot in a balcony. 1913 is the date the climber (supposedly a sport of the bush form) was put into commerce. The bush form is, to my knowledge, not available in commerce in either side of the Atlantic and it might well be extinct. All photos either in the Paul Lede or in the climbing Paul Lede entries in HMF should be the same climbing rose which has been available in Europe since a long time.

A few days ago Colombia was featured on The Friends of Vintage Roses, Facebook page. They are in California I believe, so must have it there.

The photo is slightly paler than mine, but the description of "deep,clear pink" sounds the same.

Daisy

I haven't found 'Colombia' here so far. Do you think 'Felicia' would be happy in a pot in the heat? I've read that it could be trained as a short climber and HelpMeFind lists it as suitable for containers. Same questions for 'Eglantyne'.

I also noticed a climbing 'Souvenir de la Malmaison' (stingy repeater?) and a climbing 'Yves Piaget' (the regular version blooms all summe here) in a catalgoue which I can't find much info about. I love Boncrow's suggestion of Clothilde Soupert but the climber sounds like it gets pretty big too.

You shouldn't limit yourself to what's on offer by Italian nurseries. Any reputable EU nursery which ships bareroots within the EU should be able to provide you with many of the roses discussed (for example Columbian climber is available by Beales and Trevor White in the UK). I regularly make my purchases from them. It still works from the UK not sure for how long though.... Bierkreek in Holland is another. Shipping costs (about 15-20 GBP from the UK) may make it expensive for just one or two roses though.

Ok that's useful advice. I used to live near Peter Beales but it hadn't occured to me that they'd send stuff here! I'd been thinking of local nurseries to cut travelling time because we have a lot of issues with things (both regular mail and couriered items) taking a lot longer than they should, even when delivery is guaranteed by a specific date. It drives me crazy! But maybe this doesn't matter for bare root roses if they're properly packed by a good supplier...

Thanks Daisy, that's a great news! I once emailed Peter Beales asking about the cost of importing roses, they never answered my email. I know it's expensive, but if I can't find it in this country, that might be the only source to get a rare rose. Glad to hear someone has this rose in the US. :-)